Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[bullybeef]

Give it to captain tom, he survived the war and walking around his garden a lot! legend.

It would be Sod’s law if the vaccine polished him off!

 

[BlueToff]

Well isn't Oxford double dose only around 60% and Pfizer double dose is 90+%? So 30% not 40% but that's still a considerable difference.

Pretty sure there was a discrepancy in that depending whether someone had two high doses or a high dose and then a low dose.

that was what I read initially (3 weeks ago-ish).

they were trying to figure out why it was down at 70ish % when someone was given 2 high doses, but up at 90 when it was a high dose then a low dose

I don’t know if that’s not changed

 

[BlueToff]

Running stories like this are designed to steer people away from demanding the more efficacious Pfizer vaccine and toward accepting the inferior Oxford vaccine.

People who suffer from ‘significant’ allergic reactions should not take Covid vaccine, UK regulator warns

Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency issues warning after two NHS staff members suffered allergic reaction to Pfizer jab

www.independent.co.uk

A BS sensationalist headline which, when you read it, underlines there is no problem with the Pfizer vaccine that doesn't occur in an infinitesimal number of cases with all vaccines.

Dont fall for the ruse. Demand a better vaccine than the Oxford one. Dont fall for the UK government / media spin.

The issue with the Pfizer vaccine is it’s a logistical nightmare to distribute at the pace needed to vaccinate entire countries/continents

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Even though Pzfizer/Moderna seem more efficient its fair to say both of those were developed using new methods that no one knows the long term effects of.

In fairness to the Oxford/Russian ones I believe they have made their vaccines using tried and trusted methods of other vaccines which likely makes it slightly less of an unknown quantity in terms of potential long term effects.

 

[Wizard]

We're already told though that the Oxford vaccine is going to be used in the vast majority of cases in this country. It's cheap and easy to store. They, though, are its only advantages over vaccines that are, simply put, much better at offering immunity.

I watched a CNN report also last night which cast major doubts over the testing of the Oxford vaccine. This is a major problem and WILL cause a big cleavage between the have's and have nots (those who can pay for a Pfizer/Moderna/ possibly other vaccines and those just stuck with the Oxford vaccine).

UK population in 2011 (when the figures I offered were recorded) was about 66million. So if you vaccinate the 18m older than 55 with the Pfizer vaccine you would still be vaccinating the vast majority with the Oxford one. But the vast majority in this case aren't seriously vulnerable and are highly unlikely to get seriously ill.

You also just didn't deal with the fact that the sensible thing to do was spread the risk across a number of vaccines given when orders had to be made. You can be frustrated we aren't all going to get the Pfizer vaccine now we know it is more effective. But there was every chance the Pfizer one would have been less effective than the Oxford one when the orders were made.

There is so much actual stuff to bash this government over without getting angry about something that makes little sense.

 

[grandjoeblue]

The russian vaccine is incredible but similar to their role in WW2 it will never be recognised. Russia are extremely good at medicine but the right wing media will act like the vaccine is untested and unreliable.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Blimey. Never saw that coming. Allergic reactions to a drug that's been quickly created and approved without long term trials...

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it?

 

[roydo]

Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it?

I was asked if I am allergic to eggs yesterday, cos the flu jab has egg stuff in it.

 

[Moomin]

Blimey. Never saw that coming. Allergic reactions to a drug that's been quickly created and approved without long term trials...

Both are understood to have a significant history of allergic reactions, to the extent they carry adrenaline with them.

 

[Tramps_mate]

I was asked if I am allergic to eggs yesterday, cos the flu jab has egg stuff in it.

Officially I'm allergic to lots of things. Cats, dogs, horses, dust, fish, wheat and a few other things.. literally none of them affect me in life ever. Does that mean no vaccine for me?

 

[Tramps_mate]

Both are understood to have a significant history of allergic reactions, to the extent they carry adrenaline with them.

I love how the breaking news on Talksport fails to mention any of that.. not like them to sensationalise non-news...

 

[Moomin]

I love how the breaking news on Talksport fails to mention any of that.. not like them to sensationalise non-news...

The anti vaxxers will be loving it.

Very few People will have allergic reactions to vaccines, but it happens and in this case it happened to people who have a history of allergic reactions.

 

[roydo]

Officially I'm allergic to lots of things. Cats, dogs, horses, dust, fish, wheat and a few other things.. literally none of them affect me in life ever. Does that mean no vaccine for me?

I have no idea mate.

I am still trying to work out why egg stuff is in the flu jab. Or more like, what it does.

 

[Bungle]

I have no idea mate.

I am still trying to work out why egg stuff is in the flu jab. Or more like, what it does.

"When the flu vaccines are made, the virus is grown in the yolk of fertilised hens eggs,"

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