Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Kenshin said:
And I repeat, this is childish.

You are now comparing posts on a forum to literal data from the NHS and government.

I hate to say it , but grow up man.
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Ok I'll do another....

According to the ONS:
UK average house prices increased by 2.9% over the year to May 2020, up from 2.7% in April 2020.
2020. Citation: https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/bulletins/housepriceindex/may2020

Virtual meeting software use has had a rise in the last few months, particularly March - May (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.co...osoft-Teams-usage-growth-surpasses-Zoom?amp=1)

So, we know that house prices are rising, and so is virtual meeting usage across the same time period. Virtual meeting software usages causes a rise in house prices...

Think about it for a moment.
 
davek said:
As long as it takes to get this r-number down below 1 so people aren't being killed on an industrial scale.
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But then what ?... open up again and get a third spike ?...people under 40 appear to hardly suffer or die, yet appear to be the group most likely not to wear masks or behave themselves, so why not let them just get on with it until they’ve all had it for instance. Target people for lockdown and not areas perhaps. There has to be a better way than a simple lockdown which is ruinous to people’s economy and wellbeing....
 
Charro said:
They were on the rise in Liverpool.
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Based on what ?

You went into tier 3 on the 14th October.
These are the case rates for Liverpool ( at Local Authority level )

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You peaked between the 10th and the 12th October, so that's a few days before you went into tier 3, and had just started to see a reduction occurring. Other areas in the Liverpool city region were broadly similar. Also, infections take a few days to turn into cases, so things were turning a few days earlier than that.

Moving into tier 3 didn't cause the downturn, but it will hopefully have accelerated it, which will, in time, relieve pressure on your hospitals.
 
peteblue said:
But then what ?... open up again and get a third spike ?...people under 40 appear to hardly suffer or die, yet appear to be the group most likely not to wear masks or behave themselves, so why not let them just get on with it until they’ve all had it for instance. Target people for lockdown and not areas perhaps. There has to be a better way than a simple lockdown which is ruinous to people’s economy and wellbeing....
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Lockdown - open up; lock down - open up. Rinse and repeat until a vaccine is in place.

What's the alternative - let tens of thousands die just so some spiv can continue to sell their muck?
 
davek said:
What's the alternative ?
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In the short term, find a balance of restrictions, which may or may not be a lockdown, which brings R down to something like 0.7 or 0.8 which reduces the current burden on the NHS to a sensible level.

In the medium term. Find a balance of restrictions which keep R at a level close to 1, so keeping the NHS at that sensible level and accept ( as we do with lots of other things ), that some people will die as a result.
 
Catfish Blues said:
In the short term, find a balance of restrictions, which may or may not be a lockdown, which brings R down to something like 0.7 or 0.8 which reduces the current burden on the NHS to a sensible level.

In the medium term. Find a balance of restrictions which keep R at a level close to 1, so keeping the NHS at that sensible level and accept ( as we do with lots of other things ), that some people will die as a result.
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We have no time for experimenting with what finds a point below R-1 when thousands are dying each week. We KNOW what does it right now: it's a national lockdown.

It's a luxury we dont have time for to pursue any other strategy.
 
Catfish Blues said:
Based on what ?

You went into tier 3 on the 14th October.
These are the case rates for Liverpool ( at Local Authority level )

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You peaked between the 10th and the 12th October, so that's a few days before you went into tier 3, and had just started to see a reduction occurring. Other areas in the Liverpool city region were broadly similar. Also, infections take a few days to turn into cases, so things were turning a few days earlier than that.

Moving into tier 3 didn't cause the downturn, but it will hopefully have accelerated it, which will, in time, relieve pressure on your hospitals.
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The devil is in the detail. The demographics are moving toward older people getting the infection and that is leading to more hospitilaisation and death. Our region's health service is being overwhelmed.
 
NilSatisOptimum said:
The issue now is a lack of social compliance amongst some in the population who either believe the rules don’t apply to them or are just ignoring the restrictions, this does not bode well
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It's out of control and these 'tiers' were never ever designed to stop the infection exploding out of control; they were designed to prevent a national lockdown and the closure of businesses profiting in a pandemic.
 
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