Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Walken]

I posted this yonks ago. Why didn't people listen to me ffs

At times I did feel like that weird loner who warns people about the end of days. Never being taken seriously, but every single post of mine from the early days has proven to be correct. I take absolutely no pleasure from the fact that I was right. Just great sadness that what should have been an easily avoidable situation has escalated to this, thanks to the incompetence of the WHO and governments all over the world.

Try not to be so self important over the subject, it is very off putting

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Interesting that the whole ‘we should shut schools NOW’ cry is throughly debunked. Arguably the better thing to do would to be cancel the upcoming half terms and prolong the summer break

The thing is, commentators are leaping on the report and saying it's showing the UK's approach has been wrong, but the report also says there's no real way out of this until a vaccine is created, which could be around 18 months. It's not saying that locking everything down will stop this, and it's difficult to see how the lockdown approach could possibly be sustained for 18 months.

 

[n01efc]

I posted this yonks ago. Why didn't people listen to me ffs

At times I did feel like that weird loner who warns people about the end of days. Never being taken seriously, but every single post of mine from the early days has proven to be correct. I take absolutely no pleasure from the fact that I was right. Just great sadness that what should have been an easily avoidable situation has escalated to this, thanks to the incompetence of the WHO and governments all over the world.

I’m not sure they regularly check this forum to see what you predict next!!!

 

[McBain]

I posted this yonks ago. Why didn't people listen to me ffs

At times I did feel like that weird loner who warns people about the end of days. Never being taken seriously, but every single post of mine from the early days has proven to be correct. I take absolutely no pleasure from the fact that I was right. Just great sadness that what should have been an easily avoidable situation has escalated to this, thanks to the incompetence of the WHO and governments all over the world.

Nostradouchemas over here

 

[Eggs]

.....not surprising, the Aintree Grand National meeting has been officially cancelled. Whilst this is the correct decision, it’s a huge financial blow to the City if Liverpool.

 

[zzr45]

The thing is, commentators are leaping on the report and saying it's showing the UK's approach has been wrong, but the report also says there's no real way out of this until a vaccine is created, which could be around 18 months. It's not saying that locking everything down will stop this, and it's difficult to see how the lockdown approach could possibly be sustained for 18 months.

What’s also interesting is the second bump predicted during the traditional flu season which appears to be mitigated with the approach taken. As if the steps taken haven’t just been about the here and now.

 

[Axlswhk]

Try not to be so self important over the subject, it is very off putting

To be fair what he said was correct. Countries that continues with the open door approach are those that suffer the most.

 

[Bluerover]

Taoiseach last night says that up to half the population may get infected - that would be 3.3 million on the island of Ireland.

Even at 1% mortality, which is very conservative, that is 33,000 deaths, and many more permanently scarred in their lungs, and vulnerable to future infection.

This is the stuff of worst nightmares.

 

[Sentinel]

The key takeaway from that (for me at least) is that there isn't really an easy way out of this. Until a vaccine is developed, it's going to be a case of striving for the least bad outcome.

This is true. And thanks for sharing the article. What we know right now. Is really we just don't know. As I've said repeatedly a bipartisan approach, Whether in the US or in UK is the only way forward in addressing this crisis. Act in haste repent at leisure.

Of course that time may have passed and besides individuals acting responsibly there is actually very little the government can do right now but issue guidelines or introduce draconian measures.

 

[YoboCopter]

Will pubs and clubs be shut by the weekend? Wouldnt mind one last mad one before i get locked in my home

 

[Wolf8312]

Imagine trying to talk about a serious world crisis by promotiong your own idiotic "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" logic into the diaglogue. Absolutely nothing self-centered about that. Maybe we can get Baz back and have him do a powerpoint on parallels between climate change-hoax and Covid.

You misunderstood. My point was that 911 is a great example that government experts are often blindly believed by the public simply on account of the fact that they are experts.

Even in the face of scientific impossibilities such as 2 planes bringing down three buildings(3-2=1) I am the loony with the fantastical beliefs!

The point I was (which you somehow believe is me being self centered?) making earlier, was that the UK government will not publish their computer modelling that is the basis of their own action/inaction, in their attempts to contain (now delay) covid 19. This is the dastardly policy of herd immunity, or basically to let as many people as possible to get infected and therefore die.

We are not allowed to see the computer modelling, and they will not publish the research that this policy is, or was based upon. Even if this scientific logic is considered to be dangerously flawed, and reckless, according to all other European countries, and the World Health Organization itself. We are simply supposed to take their word for it because again... they are the experts.

How is this connected to 911?

Well (and this really was explained in the OP)...

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), also did their own computer modelling, which they claim explains, how the three trade center buildings were brought down by fire, in direct violation of a number of scientific, and physical laws such as conservation of momentum, and even gravity itself.

You see a steel framed high rise, had never fallen due to fire before. But on 911, three fell down, all on the same day, and all due to fire.

So, naturally NIST was under immense pressure to explain how this scientific impossibility, was scientifically possible, and how it occurred. Their explanation finally was something called 'thermal expansion' a completely new phenomenon that had never before or since, brought down a steel framed high rise (much less 3) especially not at, or close to the speed of gravity.

The crucial point is, that again, NIST refused to publish this information, and release it, to the public, or for peer review, because they claimed they were worried that the information would fall into the hands of terrorists.

Or was it, because Issac Newton was right all along? Well just publish the data right?

But don't take my word for it, here is a former employee of NIST itself speaking out, and saying the same thing. Another nut, and loony conspiracy theorist.



The thing is mate, I am not trying to convince you, or people like you. I can see from your attitude that it would be a waste of time. I doubt you even made it to the end of this post...

But... hopefully maybe some will be more willing to keep an open mind, and do their own research.

Take care.

 

[Axlswhk]

The thing is, commentators are leaping on the report and saying it's showing the UK's approach has been wrong, but the report also says there's no real way out of this until a vaccine is created, which could be around 18 months. It's not saying that locking everything down will stop this, and it's difficult to see how the lockdown approach could possibly be sustained for 18 months.

The key is to reduce it isn’t it, there’s no way to stop it unless it is reduce first. Those that reject any form of measures are not coming out with solutions to stop it either.

 

[Bluerover]

250,000 will die in UK unless stricter virus measures are adopted, warn scientists

Around 250,000 people will die in Britain as a result of the coronavirus outbreak unless more draconian measures are adopted to protect the population, scientists have warned.

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[zzr45]

The point I was (which you somehow believe is me being self centered?) making earlier, was that the UK government will not publish their computer modelling that is the basis of their own action/inaction, in their attempts to contain (now delay) covid 19. This is the dastardly policy of herd immunity, or basically to let as many people as possible to get infected and therefore die

Apart from when they just did. Rendering your 20 year old conspiracy theory spiel a bit redundant.

 

[Harryflashman]

Will pubs and clubs be shut by the weekend? Wouldnt mind one last mad one before i get locked in my home

I think a lot of places are going to try and stay open but it’s supply and demand , it’s simply whether it’s economically viable .

I think you’ll see quite a few open for a bit longer yet , the advice seemed to be to ‘avoid‘ which depending on how you interpret potentially seems to stop short of telling people to cease going in completely.