Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Deleted member 48881]

They don’t care about that mate only Covid matters now! Completely brainwashed

It has rocketed, alcholism too. They have ruined the youth.

 

[Kenshin]

Stop the world, destroy lives, economy, businesses, because you might at a very very slim chance end up in hospital with Covid.
How much of the media tells us this on a daily basis that you’re very unlikely to hospitalised by Covid? They don’t want to they just fill us with fear, this many deaths, you can kill your grandmother if you don’t abide by the rules..’ Koff this is utter bollox shutting the world down for this.
Unfortunately Covid isn’t the only virus that attacks the old and weak.

This isn’t living it’s merely just being alive.

This is what I have been saying for the past week or so. The lockdown is protecting those who are most likely to die anyway no matter now callous it is to say it like that.

Same as average deaths are down significantly per week, respiratory deaths have magically dropped , the numbers for old age illnesses such as dementia have dropped. We could be talking thousands off the official total of covid deaths in reality.

Like I've asked before. Is ruining s young person's career a fair price to pay for protecting someone still who has the most chance to die? The irony being people say oh you can't just lock them up like prisoners, except they have literally the biggest chance of dying by going out right now!

I get the short term protection, the lockdowns, the preventative measures etc. They are all fine, the original lockdown was fine, these measures to some extent are fine. But they have to stop, for the good of millions who may be otherwise given an uphill battle that puts them in poverty .

 

[Kenshin]

As I said earlier, Ive been through the economics with others on many occasions. Shutting down the hospitality sector is doable without mass unemployment in it. If that happens, it;s a political choice. If the govenemnt of the day that has the ability to support it doesn't then that's what happens. But the most important issue - as I've stated consistently - is keeping our most vulnerable people safe. That means industries and activities requiring intensive and prolonged human interaction needs to be sidelined until it's safe to resume them.

I'm not the bad guy in all this.

Ok

So if those businesses go, industries struggle etc.

There are no jobs to go back to in the future.

What then?

 

[Kenshin]

I've deleted the post as I was referencing 2019 figures just published.

Unfortunately that will likely mean we see even higher rates as we move forward into 2021 and figures for this year are confirmed. But that's speculation.

Is that a fair price to pay long term to protect the elderly ?

In our hospitals, self harm / od and all the rest has massively increased in terms of admittance to a&e since march. Majority young people as well.

For every old life saved by locking the country down so much, a young life could well be taken early.

 

[orchard]

It seems largely politically motivated, as GPs (who have 5-10 minute consultations) are still largely operating remotely, whereas community health are being told to do 2 hour consultations face-to-face (in full PPE and with only 1 member of each household in the room during the consultation). It's somewhat farcical.

Well yeah, but maybe some oap's / disabled can't and to they've chosen to universalise the method. I'm not doubting that the current government would manipulate all state sectors to get back out there without a seconds hesitation like.

Anyways, wonder what conditions those working/attending unemployment joints are like, are they back to face-to-face, or all online still?

 

[Nymzee]

Does everyone in this thread hate old people or something?

 

[davek]

Does everyone in this thread hate old people or something?

"They'll die of something else in the end anyway, lad. We cant be expected to stop going the ale house or for some sit down scran for a few weeks to prevent that. It's just basic Darwinianism, lad"

 

[COYBL25]

Coronavirus: 'Unenforceable' rules to trigger hospitality sector collapse, lockdown city leaders warn

'The stark reality is that businesses are facing the prospect of a complete decimation in trade,' a letter to ministers says.

news.sky.com

Over the past few years, Liverpool has been reborn as a tourist destination, which has been almost solely, down to the service and hospitality industry.

Most weekends, the occupancy rate in hotels is hitting 95%.

Who`d have thought a few years back that people from other parts of the country and other parts of the world would flock here in vast numbers ??

Should the worst happen and the City Centre went to the wall, the impact on the whole city would be far reaching and potentially devastating.

You can`t just simply casually wave your hand and say that all those people potentially losing their jobs, " will be alright eventually ".

It simply can`t be allowed to happen.

 

[Nymzee]

Over the past few years, Liverpool has been reborn as a tourist destination, which has been almost solely, down to the service and hospitality industry.

Most weekends, the occupancy rate in hotels is hitting 95%.

Who`d have thought a few years back that people from other parts of the country and other parts of the world would flock here in vast numbers ??

Should the worst happen and the City Centre went to the wall, the impact on the whole city would be far reaching and potentially devastating.

You can`t just simply casually wave your hand and say that all those people potentially losing their jobs, " will be alright eventually ".

It simply can`t be allowed to happen.

Maybe if people followed the rules in the first place industries like that wouldn’t need shutting? I hope all those complaining about pubs potentially shutting have been squeaky clean & orderly since March.

 

[BlueStevie35]

No one hates the elderly, that’s just nonsense

 

[Kenshin]

Does everyone in this thread hate old people or something?

The funny thing is , given the average age of death for the virus itself. It is silly long term to have measures in that affect everyone negatively. Rather than implement measures designed to protect those most affected by it.

 

[YoboCopter]

Over the past few years, Liverpool has been reborn as a tourist destination, which has been almost solely, down to the service and hospitality industry.

Most weekends, the occupancy rate in hotels is hitting 95%.

Who`d have thought a few years back that people from other parts of the country and other parts of the world would flock here in vast numbers ??

Should the worst happen and the City Centre went to the wall, the impact on the whole city would be far reaching and potentially devastating.

You can`t just simply casually wave your hand and say that all those people potentially losing their jobs, " will be alright eventually ".

It simply can`t be allowed to happen.

Imagine the mental health, poverty and crime that comes from this...

buts its fine protect the over 80s at all costs

 

[BlueToff]

I’m telling people to be grateful for the position they find themselves in A.K.A. a bit of perspective. I empathise for people losing their jobs; some of my friends have lost their jobs; I just don’t care much for people whinging they can’t do their dream job right now when the reason they can’t do it isn’t because the gov hates them it’s because we’re slap bang in the middle of a pandemic.

The world will recover and hopefully everyone gets another crack at their dream job but right now we should all be thankful for what we have.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that it’s because the government hate them.
You saying ‘be happy with what you’ve got’ doesn’t come across as very empathetic, even though I agree with your general point that this can’t be helped and people have got to do what they’ve got to do.

thing is, we seem no closer to a solution than we were six months ago, that’s the worry for many people

 

[Nymzee]

The funny thing is , given the average age of death for the virus itself. It is silly long term to have measures in that affect everyone negatively. Rather than implement measures designed to protect those most affected by it.

We did design measures to protect them: shielding. Funny thing is it still kills other demographics.

 

[COYBL25]

Maybe if people followed the rules in the first place industries like that wouldn’t need shutting? I hope all those complaining about pubs potentially shutting have been squeaky clean & orderly since March.

So the answer is to wipe out City Centres ?

Plus stats are showing that the spread of the virus within licensed premises is very low compared to many other places - people visiting other houses being the main one.