Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Stop the world, destroy lives, economy, businesses, because you might at a very very slim chance end up in hospital with Covid.
How much of the media tells us this on a daily basis that you’re very unlikely to hospitalised by Covid? They don’t want to they just fill us with fear, this many deaths, you can kill your grandmother if you don’t abide by the rules..’ Koff this is utter bollox shutting the world down for this.
Unfortunately Covid isn’t the only virus that attacks the old and weak.

This isn’t living it’s merely just being alive.
 
Seen an article in the Echo about a school in Widnes who decided to test every pupil, 40 positive tests and the schools now shut. None of the kids had symptoms. Imagine if they did the same at every school across the country, the number of positives is a lot higher than reported and probably has been throughout the whole pandemic.

I really don't get it when people compare the cases from now to March/April. Its quite possible that there could have been over 50,000 positives a day at that point.

Even if we came out of lockdown later it would have come back, quite a few countries in Europe are in a fairly similar position regardless of the length of the lockdown.
 
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Bruce Wayne said:
Incidentally, the NHS are still being made to do home visits so not everyone is working from home,even though remote consultations worked really well.
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Of course, like the other emergency services, but they ought to have robust PPE for those roles by now, although maybe they haven't...

Or are you saying that unnecessary visits are being made?
 
BlueToff said:
Have you ever worked or lived with the trade, Dave? This is a genuine question. I'm young but the first 15 years of my life that I can remember were spent without my dad as he owned several bars. It's an all-consuming trade which is always on the edge, one way or the other.

The long-lasting impacts aren't just closing the stuff down now. It's getting people - a lot of whom just seem to want to live in fear, or a 100% risk-free life (which we have never had, we just mitigate as much as poss against those risks) - back out without incentives.

It's getting people to open up new bars/restaurants etc this time next year, when the country/world is in another recession.

It's getting people back to stadiums, or gigs, without them all thinking well why is it worth it anyway if I have to risk isolating for two weeks after.

There's so much more to all this and the SHUT THEM DOWN (bars, cafes, restaurants, schools, whatever) shouts don't solve anything. It's just delaying the inevitable at the end of the day. They'll have to open again at some stage, and when they do there will be a spike, and then what? Close it all down again, and so on and so on.

It's ludicrous.

And i'm not defedning this government. I've been abandoned by them, loads have. They're a shambles. But long-term 'shut them down' is not a solution, and after six months, the world - not just the UK - should be tackling this thing with a long-term view.
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This is a very good read
 
BlueToff said:
Have you ever worked or lived with the trade, Dave? This is a genuine question. I'm young but the first 15 years of my life that I can remember were spent without my dad as he owned several bars. It's an all-consuming trade which is always on the edge, one way or the other.

The long-lasting impacts aren't just closing the stuff down now. It's getting people - a lot of whom just seem to want to live in fear, or a 100% risk-free life (which we have never had, we just mitigate as much as poss against those risks) - back out without incentives.

It's getting people to open up new bars/restaurants etc this time next year, when the country/world is in another recession.

It's getting people back to stadiums, or gigs, without them all thinking well why is it worth it anyway if I have to risk isolating for two weeks after.

There's so much more to all this and the SHUT THEM DOWN (bars, cafes, restaurants, schools, whatever) shouts don't solve anything. It's just delaying the inevitable at the end of the day. They'll have to open again at some stage, and when they do there will be a spike, and then what? Close it all down again, and so on and so on.

It's ludicrous.

And i'm not defedning this government. I've been abandoned by them, loads have. They're a shambles. But long-term 'shut them down' is not a solution, and after six months, the world - not just the UK - should be tackling this thing with a long-term view.
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Excellent post mate
 
orchard said:
Of course, like the other emergency services, but they ought to have robust PPE for those roles by now, although maybe they haven't...

Or are you saying that unnecessary visits are being made?
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It seems largely politically motivated, as GPs (who have 5-10 minute consultations) are still largely operating remotely, whereas community health are being told to do 2 hour consultations face-to-face (in full PPE and with only 1 member of each household in the room during the consultation). It's somewhat farcical.
 
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