Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Kenshin said:
You are right Dave.

Sod the people minimum wage who lose their job overnight by shutting them making it difficult to make rent, feed their family and have to rely on handouts.

Sod the business owners who lose their livelyhood and go from owning their own business to losing their house because they can't afford the mortgage.

Sod the doormen, who again lose their job there and then.

Sod the industries who make the food for resturants. No businesses to supply to, shut the places down and turf hundreds of workers onto the streets , see reasons why above.

Sod all of these families affected by this, the kids, wife's/husband's who suddenly have to find money from somewhere to make ends meet. Or maybe they work in these industries themselves and they are too out of a job.

Sod all of the kids involved in such a drastic action.


All so deep down you can fully protect the retired , the sick , the old of this country.

And by doing so you in turn put thousands into poverty overnight.
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As I said earlier, Ive been through the economics with others on many occasions. Shutting down the hospitality sector is doable without mass unemployment in it. If that happens, it;s a political choice. If the govenemnt of the day that has the ability to support it doesn't then that's what happens. But the most important issue - as I've stated consistently - is keeping our most vulnerable people safe. That means industries and activities requiring intensive and prolonged human interaction needs to be sidelined until it's safe to resume them.

I'm not the bad guy in all this.
 
davek said:
As I said earlier, Ive been through the economics with others on many occasions. Shutting down the hospitality sector is doable without mass unemployment in it. If that happens, it;s a political choice. If the govenemnt of the day that has the ability to support it doesn't then that's what happens. But the most important issue - as I've stated consistently - is keeping our most vulnerable people safe. That means industries and activities requiring intensive and prolonged human interaction needs to be sidelined until it's safe to resume them.

I'm not the bad guy in all this.
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I agree with the principle.

I just don't know if it's doable in a sustainable way.

Because all those people have to get back on their feet eventually and if, next year, these restrictions still have to be in place, then it's not really solved any issue.

That's the issue, surely.
 
BlueToff said:
And by Feb/March there has to be a solution to get out of it because the virus isn't going anywhere after that, is all.
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But that’s not the point; you’re making it out people are getting screwed over not having their dream job during a pandemic like the gov took it away from them for no reason. Right now we should all be happy no matter what job we have whether it’s your dream job or stacking shelves. Everyone must do their part.
 
Nymzee said:
But that’s not the point; you’re making it out people are getting screwed over not having their dream job during a pandemic like the gov took it away from them for no reason. Right now we should all be happy no matter what job we have whether it’s your dream job or stacking shelves. Everyone must do their part.
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I don't know your case. I don't know whether you've lost work or have been on furlough or carried on as normal/wfh.

Losing your way of living that you've worked hard at can't just be replaced by six months of stacking shelves or, as I've had to do, six months of delivering tests which now, ironically, is taking away from my reporting now sport has returned, but I need to do it for the money to catch up.

I literally had my dream job, at Everton, snatched away from me, too, by this. I don't know if the opportunity is ever going to come round again. It's crap so I try not to think about it and when I do I just hope there's a chance it does.

I can only speak for myself, but if it wasn't for the fact that I focused on getting fitter etc then mentally I'd have really struggled, more than I did at the beginning of this. It's a huge worry, and now the feeling that I'm going backwards in my career at an age when I wanted to push on is hitting me. I'm not someone who tries to plan too far ahead but life's short and I want to make the most of it - as everyone does.

So I do understand your point, but again you just show a lack of empathy and this idea that everything should be 'for the greater good'. I totally agree in principle, but we had six months to sort it out/have a plan of action to get out of this, and haven't got one.
 
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The people crying the lock down in, do you have social lives usually and/or friends?

cant get my head around it at all

might not leave the house today could get hit by A bus
 
BlueToff said:
I don't know your case. I don't know whether you've lost work or have been on furlough or carried on as normal/wfh.

Losing your way of living that you've worked hard at can't just be replaced by six months of stacking shelves or, as I've had to do, six months of delivering tests which now, ironically, is taking away from my reporting now sport has returned, but I need to do it for the money to catch up.

I literally had my dream job, at Everton, snatched away from me, too, by this. I don't know if the opportunity is ever going to come round again. It's crap so I try not to think about it and when I do I just hope there's a chance it does.

I can only speak for myself, but if it wasn't for the fact that I focused on getting fitter etc then mentally I'd have really struggled, more than I did at the beginning of this. It's a huge worry, and now the feeling that I'm going backwards in my career at an age when I wanted to push on is hitting me. I'm not someone who tries to plan too far ahead but life's short and I want to make the most of it - as everyone does.

So I do understand your point, but again you just show a lack of empathy and this idea that everything should be 'for the greater good'. I totally agree in principle, but we had six months to sort it out/have a plan of action to get out of this, and haven't got one.
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It’s not about the greater good lol it’s about realising just how lucky you are to still have any job, rent/pay a mortgage, afford restaurants and new clothes and a car. We’re such a privileged generation (I know we’re roughly the same age). I might not show empathy for your situation but trust me you have it so much better than lots of other people.

A friend of mine has had to move back home with his parents, sell his car & me and our other friends are financially supporting him so he can pay off his bills and buy his kids school uniforms etc.

Stop cryarsing, you have a job.
 
Nymzee said:
It’s not about the greater good lol it’s about realising just how lucky you are to still have any job, rent/pay a mortgage, afford restaurants and new clothes and a car. We’re such a privileged generation (I know we’re roughly the same age). I might not show empathy for your situation but trust me you have it so much better than lots of other people.

A friend of mine has had to move back home with his parents, sell his car & me and our other friends are financially supporting him so he can pay off his bills and buy his kids school uniforms etc.

Stop cryarsing, you have a job.
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We came out of lockdown too soon. Quite a few experts said we should have waited till late July.

We came out start of July with no track or trace app. It's been a total shambles compared to other countries.
 
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