Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

Its all a con told ya, just about control and surrendering all our rights

If you think it’s all a con why don’t you spend your time in the conspiracy theory thread instead of coming in here looking like an arsewipe.

 

[Blues Harp]

Its all a con told ya, just about control and surrendering all our rights

Arsehole....bye bye moron.

 

[YoboCopter]

If you think it’s all a con why don’t you spend your time in the conspiracy theory thread instead of coming in here looking like an arsewipe.

Want to open a few of the lads eyes

 

[Nymzee]

Want to open a few of the lads eyes

Maybe you should open a book from time to time and try get an IQ.

 

[YoboCopter]

Maybe you should open a book from time to time and try get an IQ.

I cant read mate
Get my mum to read me things im intrested in

 

[Nymzee]

I cant read mate
Get my mum to read me things im intrested in

Wouldn’t surprise me. I was mightily impressed you even worked out how to create an account on here tbh.

 

[YoboCopter]

Wouldn’t surprise me. I was mightily impressed you even worked out how to create an account on here tbh.

My mate done it for me dont get too exited

i was always class 6 at school but i went the university of life

 

[Brennan]

You HAVE BEEN talking about quarantine elsewhere on this thread. It matters not that you weren't today.

The point stands, even if it's one you conveniently choose to swerve.

You’re really not making any sense.

The best you could come up with after trawling through my posting history was to find a post from at the start of June, saying I thought it was a better idea to quarantine all foreign visitors than to scan people’s temperature instead.

Quite what that has to do with the conversation i was having with Billy I’ve no idea.

 

[Blues Harp]

You’re really not making any sense.

The best you could come up with after trawling through my posting history was to find a post from at the start of June, saying I thought it was a better idea to quarantine all foreign visitors than to scan people’s temperature instead.

Quite what that has to do with the conversation i was having with Billy I’ve no idea.

Neither have I...what was the question mate?

 

[Brennan]

Neither have I...what was the question mate?

Deep breath...

Some dude in Bavaria came back from Italy, had a test on the border and it took 3 days for the results to come through after he was told 1 day. In the meantime he went to a birthday party. Then he got the result (positive) and now 120 people are in quarantine lol

Should be fined massively.

If people want to travel across borders then fine, but there really need to be stricter rules around what you can and can’t do when returning.

No unnecessary social gathering until receiving test results would be a start and surely a no brainer.

But what do you care? According to you there'll be no second wave.

You call for the economy to be opened up and then complain that those holidaying should face massive hold ups with tighter quarantine regulation. THAT's what opening up the economy gets you: mass movement across borders.

I do sort of have some sympathy for him though. He was told 24 hours but hadn't heard anything. So maybe he assumed no news is good news. And I don't think he was in a high risk area so might not have even been obliged to have the test in the 1st place.

So many fallacies I don't really know where to begin.

Never said there would not be a second wave. Did take the piss out of you for declaring there would absolutely be one (that would smash into us, I believe were your words) in the Summer after pubs opened though.

Never said anything about massive hold ups or tighter quarantine, simply that there should be rules like not going to a mass gathering until receiving a negative test result if you've just been on holiday to another country.

It's almost like you are deliberately misrepresenting my posts to be an argumentative bell end. Surely not...

You've advocated the opening up of society / the economy but you now cant square the circle of that 'getting out there' again with mass mobilisation of the population leads to people looking to cut corners on quarantine.

You basically summoned the genie out of the lamp and are bewildered as to why it wont act in an orderly manner and get back in the lamp.

You cant ride two horses in this period; you cant encourage movement and economic activity and expect tight personal discipline on self-quarantine.

Two different things isn't it? If we cast our mind back to March, people had to quarantine if they had symptoms because that was an assumption that they had it. Now, 5 months later we're asking people to quarantine just because they've been somewhere, even if they show no symptoms at all. All this whilst bragging about doing 100,000 tests a day and about the country having a world beating track and trace system. If we are to live with this virus for the foreseeable future then we need to get a lot smarter than we currently are.

Which is a better approach given we now know that asymptomatics wreaked havoc in the spring.

There's spit tests about to be introduced that'll be easier to use and quicker to give results (hours). I hate to use the murderer's terminology about 'game changer' but that could well be it.

My point though is that you cant open up an economy again and expect anything but a rise in infections and the need to be far more vigillant...but expecting individuals to self police is ridiculous.

I'm not sure anyone is suggesting that opening the economy would result in fewer cases, but I'm sure you'll point me in the right direction for any that are. With regards to policing it, what would the alternative be? Some sort of tag that people wear like those we attach to criminals?

False premise. 'Some people break rules therefore rules are pointless'

In the same way that the vast majority of people obey the directive to wear masks in shops despite it being largely self governed, the vast majority of people would obey a rule which requested attending no large gatherings until receipt of a test result when that test is performed at the border.

That wasn't a claim I made.

But you're expecting the whole of the people holidaying abroad and then coming back in to quarantine, and that is asinine.

This is where your argument to open up falls down: it only takes a minority of those holidaying (or going to pubs/restaurants) to be less than serious about how they socially distance for the virus to get a massive hold on the population again.

There is no balance; no middle way. You either deny the virus room to grow or you hand it the chance to.

I never said such a thing.

In what world is 'Avoid large gatherings and parties' the same as quarantine ?

You supported the government on tightening up quarantine protocol at airports.

Maybe you forgot about that?

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/coronavirus-thread-serious-stuff.109382/page-2719#post-7849125

What's your point ?

That is you go the pub your a murderer

You're saying that you want quarantine to be observed with no shortcuts, and you would condemn anyone for seeking to avoid them or trying to circumvent them. I'm saying that people who fall into that category and try not to observe quarantine are a by-product of the call to open the economy up. You cant have one without the other. There will always be different responses to observing regulations.

So, you either have an approach that keeps shut down the drivers to transmission of infection, like the holiday industry and the hospitality industy, in order to keep on top of the infection rate, or you open up the economy and suffer the consequences.

THAT is my point.

Again, no I'm not. We weren't talking about a quarantine.

You HAVE BEEN talking about quarantine elsewhere on this thread. It matters not that you weren't today.

The point stands, even if it's one you conveniently choose to swerve.

 

[Blues Harp]

Deep breath...

Superb.....when is the DVD out?

 

[Brennan]

Superb.....when is the DVD out?

Long and short of it; if you make any comment about Covid measures at some point on the forum then that is your opinion forever and cannot ever be more nuanced than that comment or ever be changed dependent on the circumstances.

For example, if back in February somebody repeatedly stated Covid was an overblown flu being used to scare the public, then that would have to be their view forever...

 

[carlos21]

I cant read mate
Get my mum to read me things im intrested in

Yo buddy how are you doing tonight.

 

[carlos21]

What you guys think to covid 19.

 

[YoboCopter]

What you guys think to covid 19.

Its a con mate
Goverment form of controling us
Dont be fooled carlos