Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[ToffeeTim]

I'm not talking about a national lockdown per se. I'm talking about that industry being locked down.

You'd have to have been living under a rock the last week or so to have missed the talk of pubs and restaurants closing if schools are to be re-opened.

Something has to give to keep the R-number down.

I don't think we'll see a national lock down of any industry going forward. I'm not sure it would make sense either. The idea going forward has to be targeting specific outbreaks and making sure those involved are identified quickly.

 

[davek]

Pubs aren’t full though are they , most of them are heavily restricted by the covid rules . A big Everton pub in town got a good few hundred on a match now limited to less than 60 .

60 people in a pub is still 60 people in a pub for hours - and they wont be socially distancing all night.

There's no way opening pubs and restaurants can be argued to be a good idea in a pandemic, other than if you make the strictly economic case for it.

 

[davek]

I don't think we'll see a national lock down of any industry going forward. I'm not sure it would make sense either. The idea going forward has to be targeting specific outbreaks and making sure those involved are identified quickly.

That's nonesense though. We saw how The Murderer slammed the brakes on any national rolling out of further relaxation measures just last weekend.

Forget about what the Tories say about 'local lockdowns'. They'll see their arses if / when the number of fatalities rises alarmingly.

 

[davek]

"Health officials tracing contacts in the Covid-19 outbreak in Aberdeen have released the names of 32 pubs, restaurants and golf courses scattered around the city and Aberdeenshire visited by infected people, writes Severin Carrell, the Guardian’s Scotland editor.

The list includes the Cock and Bull, a gastropub in Balmedie close to Donald Trump’s Aberdeenshire golf course and used in the past by President Trump on his visits to Scotland, as well as a golf club in Aboyne, about 30 miles from Aberdeen.

NHS Grampian also named a restaurant at Bridge of Don on the outskirts of Aberdeen, the Buckie Farm Carvery, and the Dyce Carvery close to Aberdeen airport.

It names two of the bars at the centre of the scare, the Hawthorn bar where the first cluster of cases emerged last week, and the Soul bar on Union Street, which featured in social media complaints about significant queues at the weekend."

I can see this happening all over the UK soon. Pubs and restaurants are perfect incubators for the virus: indoors, populated by customers for hours, using ventilation units that swirl air about.

It's a matter of time before we see the hospitality industry closed again.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Hospital figures - 15 is the announced total, up 8 on yesterday but down 4 on last Wednesday. 13 were in English hospitals, up 7 on yesterday and down one on last week with all but one coming in the past 10 days. This brings the 7 day rolling average down again to 9.71, the lowest since March

 

[COYBL25]

"Health officials tracing contacts in the Covid-19 outbreak in Aberdeen have released the names of 32 pubs, restaurants and golf courses scattered around the city and Aberdeenshire visited by infected people, writes Severin Carrell, the Guardian’s Scotland editor.

The list includes the Cock and Bull, a gastropub in Balmedie close to Donald Trump’s Aberdeenshire golf course and used in the past by President Trump on his visits to Scotland, as well as a golf club in Aboyne, about 30 miles from Aberdeen.

NHS Grampian also named a restaurant at Bridge of Don on the outskirts of Aberdeen, the Buckie Farm Carvery, and the Dyce Carvery close to Aberdeen airport.

It names two of the bars at the centre of the scare, the Hawthorn bar where the first cluster of cases emerged last week, and the Soul bar on Union Street, which featured in social media complaints about significant queues at the weekend."

I can see this happening all over the UK soon. Pubs and restaurants are perfect incubators for the virus: indoors, populated by customers for hours, using ventilation units that swirl air about.

It's a matter of time before we see the hospitality industry closed again.

What you really mean, is that you hope it does.

 

[Harryflashman]

What you really mean, is that you hope it does.

 

[davek]

What you really mean, is that you hope it does.

It means both: that I think it will happen, and that I hope it will. Lives depend on that sector shutting down.

 

[COYBL25]

It means both: that I think it will happen, and that I hope it will. Lives depend on that sector shutting down.

Lives also depend on the 3 million people employed in the hospitality industry too, but you`d happily have them all on the dole.

But you keep dodging this fact don`t you

 

[BlueStevie35]

All settings - 65 is the announced total, up 56 on yesterday but down 18 on last Wednesday, bringing the 7 day rolling average down below 60 to 57.57

 

[peteblue]

Seems strange no areas down south been closed down yet .Yet the hole borough of Wigan has with a rating of 7 per 100.000 which is less than the national average .
Wouldn't have anything to do with wigan being a strong labour area would it.
Thinking it's our punishment for not voting tory.

I think it’s disgraceful including Wigan just because it’s in ‘Greater’ Manchester......

 

[peteblue]

I'm obviously missing something, but that report said that more 200 people died from Covid last week. How on earth can 217 people dying from Covid give you optimism?

Death rates are back to normal, the Covid deaths could just as easily have been old age or heart disease......

 

[roydo]

Death rates are back to normal, the Covid deaths could just as easily have been old age or heart disease......

Yep. That doesnt mean an immediate return to normal, (as you well know), but a concerted focus on masks, social distancing, and common sense for a few months still.

 

[Toast]

Yep. That doesnt mean an immediate return to normal, (as you well know), but a concerted focus on masks, social distancing, and common sense for a few months still.

If the government use the word ‘normal’ the use of masks etc will get ignored sharpish.

 

[zzr45]

The virus will come in waves. Hospitality will be hit on that basis and the owners of those businesses need to dig into their vast profits if they want to come out the other end. The govenment cant just walk away from it either...and wont - it's politically not possible to do so.

Ah yes, pubs, well known for not shutting in record numbers because they don’t have two pennies to rub together.