Mans gotta get paid fam.
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Mans gotta get paid fam.
Job specific of course but we had a couple of toolbox talks where I work on it. It’s wrong people should be made to feel like they have to work when sick.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
All the stats tell you that we have flattened the curve as you say. When you look at the deaths you see that compared to 7 days earlier, which is the best way to measure it really due to the way the stats are collected, the figures are coming down week by week, and the 7 day rolling average is now below 100. Still too high but that's a legacy of poor decisions made earlier in the crisis. The number of people in hospitals are also coming down weekly, as are the numbers in ICUs and the daily admissions to hospitals.
The numbers testing positive daily have also been under 1000 for over a week now. So despite all the various decisions that have been made over the last 4/6 weeks, such as opening up travel, allowing small groups, going to the beaches and parks, opening schools to some students and opening up none essential shopping and garden centres, the infection rate, on the back of much higher testing figures, has continued to come down. This is also despite some horrendous scenes at a minority of beaches, street parties, demonstrations, raves, riots and RS nobheads celebrating.
The next acid test will be in a couple of weeks time when we see the reaction to opening up pubs and restaurants and reducing the SD rule to 1 metre. But so far, it has to be said that the government are doing an OK job in opening up the economy again, and that's mainly down to the majority of people behaving sensibly and sticking to the SD rules. Yes there are the exceptions, mainly youngsters to be fair, but I don't think these are anywhere near as prevalent as our media would like us to believe.
I hope we don't see a sharp rise in infections as a result of the latest moves. We will always get some infections due to the numbers that don't follow the rules, but if we can keep them down to the existin g levels then out track and trace can easily keep on top of it. Even if they do start to creep up, we are much better placed to deal with it now than we were in March/April. We have the testing capacity, we have spent billions on making the right type of PPE in sufficient numbers, we have more ICUs, ventilators and breathing apparatus, and we know more about the disease now and the medication to fight it. Most of all we also now know to keep the most at risk protected and have the ability to do that.
As you say, until a vaccine is produced, this is something that we have to learn to live with.
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
He's also implying people shouldn't wear masks either. "Do you know what it's like to cough with a mask on etc".
Doesn't want to follow any rules but is happy to blame the government, despite taking no personal responsibility.
Says it all really.
#hypocrite #norespect
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
I can't believe I'm having this conversation after at least 50,000 people have already died of this. People have no way of knowing if they have a cold or if they have covid. Regardless of their financial position, it is just irresponsible not to get a test and self isolate until the result comes back. Irresponsible and criminal.
Anybody who did that during February, March and April may have been responsible for the deaths of other people. If you condone that mate you and I have a different set of values.
Throughout my life there have been numerous times when I have been on the bones of my arse financially, but I guarantee I would never have put other people at risk for the sake of a day or two's pay. It wouldn't even have been an option.
Ive never gone to work sick, but im just saying SOME people have to do whats right for THEIR family.
And I also think millions of people being off sick is totally unreasonable.
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
I was one of them although towards the end before I retired I was able to work from home if need be.
We used to operate a buddy system, whereby if one of us was off the other would take care of any time critical stuff. But otherwise it was just left until you returned from sick or holiday. So you tended not to take time off sick, and worry all through your holidays about the backlog you had to deal with when you returned.
Not sure how I stuck it out for 35 years.
I was exactly the same mate for the last 30 years, the only time I had off was the day after I had the snip even then I worked in the morning had the opp in the afternoon was off the next day then back in .That was 23 years ago.
When on holiday i use to walk back into a back log and take a week to catch up.
Paris
What is love?
I feel like I need to rant.
As a keyworker, I've been working my arse off and my workload doubled over the past few months. This at the same time when a vast majority of the country's workforce were paid and some are still continuing to be paid 80% of their wages just to sit on their backside at home all day. It's also likely that I'm going to be paying more in taxes as a result of the virus. Paying for those who were lucky enough to be furloughed.
I'm not resentful of those who were furloughed, I mean, who wouldn't enjoy being sat at home all day whilst still being paid 80% of their wages? However, us keyworkers have not been looked after by this government, at all. Yeah we get the occasional 'thank you' but so what? In what tangible way is that going to help?
Rant over.
As a keyworker, I've been working my arse off and my workload doubled over the past few months. This at the same time when a vast majority of the country's workforce were paid and some are still continuing to be paid 80% of their wages just to sit on their backside at home all day. It's also likely that I'm going to be paying more in taxes as a result of the virus. Paying for those who were lucky enough to be furloughed.
I'm not resentful of those who were furloughed, I mean, who wouldn't enjoy being sat at home all day whilst still being paid 80% of their wages? However, us keyworkers have not been looked after by this government, at all. Yeah we get the occasional 'thank you' but so what? In what tangible way is that going to help?
Rant over.
Martin Alvito
Player Valuation: £50m
Companies can solve that problem by giving more paid time off.
Candidly, the reason that doesn't happen in the U.S. is employee benefits. A company is made strictly better off by hiring more workers and having sick employees stay home if the company is just writing checks on the basis of hours worked. The negative spillover effects of having, say, the flu spread in an office are probably sufficient to offset paying for a sizable bank of sick days if we're just talking about wages.
Once you add employee health insurance, retirement and other benefits to the equation, the situation changes. Employers are incentivized to squeeze every last drop of productivity from every employee and avoid new hires whenever possible, in order to avoid taking on new employee benefit liabilities.
Countries that have socialized portions (or all) of the functions of employee benefits tend to have healthier working cultures as a result.
10,000 people die each year from the flu. Just saying and all. Hopefully this crisis will have led not only to a shift in attitudes towards protecting others from infectious diseases, but also a shift in mindset about the sick pay that is so crucial to supporting people in not spreading.
zzr45
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That and changing the mindset of people that working while ill is some kind of badge of honour.
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