Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

Just yesterday there was 126 deaths and 630 new cases!

The deaths would be over several days, and I fully expect the infection rate to increase.

But you said 0000's but post 630. Thats a tiny tiny % of folk.

 

[Goat]

The deaths would be over several days, and I fully expect the infection rate to increase.

But you said 0000's but post 630. Thats a tiny tiny % of folk.

If we post 126 deaths and 630 infections in 1 day.

Surely that means hundreds of deaths and thousands infected per week?

 

[davek]

Germany announced 11 deaths yesterday.

That's what a flattening out looks like.

 

[davek]

The deaths would be over several days, and I fully expect the infection rate to increase.

But you said 0000's but post 630. Thats a tiny tiny % of folk.

PER WEEK!!!

 

[davek]

it absolutely isn’t.

I’m not bothered about pictures of mobs of people I’m telling you that’s how the vast majority of pubs are operating.

That's just not going to last.

 

[BlueStevie35]

Once again lack of total understanding about daily figures, they are not for a 24 hour period, in hospitals in particular they go back at least 10 days and are minimal at best

Take today’s announced figure of 126, broken down it’s 47 in hospitals, 79 in care homes and other settings.

The announced total for hospitals is 8 up on yesterday but 12 down on last Wednesday. Of this 42 were in English hospitals, up 6 on yesterday and 8 down on last week with 33 coming in the past 10 days. It’s 4 weeks since hospital figures were in triple digits and for the most part they have stayed below 50. This brings the 7 day rolling average down again slightly to 36.14

The all settings figure of 126 is down 29 on yesterday and 50 down on last Wednesday, bringing that rolling average down under 90 to 87.29

 

[paultheblue]

That's just not going to last.

That's the problem people won't stick to it you only have to go in the supermarkets to see the difference between now and a few weeks ago social distancing has gone straight out the window.
The government have give up on upholding the law and are just preparing themselves for the blame game.They brought in a law /recommendation that people had to wear masks on public transport my lad went on a train to Manchester yesterday and was in a caraige with just 5 people on but none of them were wearing masks nobody there to tell people to put them on.
Hopefully this thing isn't as strong now as it was in the beginning because Boris the Walter Mitty of Westminster has all but thrown the towel in

 

[COYBL25]

Once again lack of total understanding about daily figures, they are not for a 24 hour period, in hospitals in particular they go back at least 10 days and are minimal at best

Take today’s announced figure of 126, broken down it’s 47 in hospitals, 79 in care homes and other settings.

The announced total for hospitals is 8 up on yesterday but 12 down on last Wednesday. Of this 42 were in English hospitals, up 6 on yesterday and 8 down on last week with 33 coming in the past 10 days. It’s 4 weeks since hospital figures were in triple digits and for the most part they have stayed below 50. This brings the 7 day rolling average down again slightly to 36.14

The all settings figure of 126 is down 29 on yesterday and 50 down on last Wednesday, bringing that rolling average down under 90 to 87.29

It’s not a total lack understanding of the figures mate, he understands them very well, it just doesn’t suit his agenda.

 

[toffeejack]

That's the problem people won't stick to it you only have to go in the supermarkets to see the difference between now and a few weeks ago social distancing has gone straight out the window.
The government have give up on upholding the law and are just preparing themselves for the blame game.They brought in a law /recommendation that people had to wear masks on public transport my lad went on a train to Manchester yesterday and was in a caraige with just 5 people on but none of them were wearing masks nobody there to tell people to put them on.
Hopefully this thing isn't as strong now as it was in the beginning because Boris the Walter Mitty of Westminster has all but thrown the towel in

Whilst i agree, it goes both ways. Those people not bothering to wear a mask are so bloody selfish. The government's rules are useless yes, but it doesn't mean people should ignore them just because nobody is there to tell them. People are supposed to grow up and take responsibility when they leave school, not stay as children.

 

[paultheblue]

Whilst i agree, it goes both ways. Those people not bothering to wear a mask are so bloody selfish. The government's rules are useless yes, but it doesn't mean people should ignore them just because nobody is there to tell them. People are supposed to grow up and take responsibility when they leave school, not stay as children.

I agree mate but people only need the slightest excuse to flaunt the rules and Cummings gave it to them

 

[Kurt.]

Whilst i agree, it goes both ways. Those people not bothering to wear a mask are so bloody selfish. The government's rules are useless yes, but it doesn't mean people should ignore them just because nobody is there to tell them. People are supposed to grow up and take responsibility when they leave school, not stay as children.

When are you leaving school mate ? lol lol

 

[davek]

That's the problem people won't stick to it you only have to go in the supermarkets to see the difference between now and a few weeks ago social distancing has gone straight out the window.
The government have give up on upholding the law and are just preparing themselves for the blame game.They brought in a law /recommendation that people had to wear masks on public transport my lad went on a train to Manchester yesterday and was in a caraige with just 5 people on but none of them were wearing masks nobody there to tell people to put them on.
Hopefully this thing isn't as strong now as it was in the beginning because Boris the Walter Mitty of Westminster has all but thrown the towel in

Leadership for the Johnson Gang is "advising" people to do the right thing.

Two things wrong with that:

1/ they (the government) really want people to ignore all social distancing and become economically active again. They could give a flying one about the virus and its effects. They've been through that and they wont want to be held to account on it again. Thus, their attitude is "its not down to us, it's down to you"...and no mandatory use of face masks anywhere other than public tranpsort (and, as you point out, not even policed seriously there).

2/ even if they were genuinely advising people to do the right thing, the people they're advising are actually a child-like population who, for the past 40 years of neo-liberalism, have been dumbed down and told to treat nothing serious - other than making money - and so they simply, and quickly, revert back to a default selfish position of doing whatever they want to maximise their own enjoyment at the expense of others.


I'm hearing people on this thread talking about the "rights" of people to 'normalise' their lives again.

FFS, there are 2.5M people in this country who have locked themselves away for 4 months and who cant see a future for themselves. But the show must go on for the nobhead class, stuffing their gobs with crap food and swilling pints of ale down their stupid 'kin gobs. Perish the thought that they and the spiv industries that service them are held back in check to get on top of the virus that keeps millions prisoners in their own homes.

 

[Catfish Blues]

Once again lack of total understanding about daily figures, they are not for a 24 hour period, in hospitals in particular they go back at least 10 days and are minimal at best

Take today’s announced figure of 126, broken down it’s 47 in hospitals, 79 in care homes and other settings.

The announced total for hospitals is 8 up on yesterday but 12 down on last Wednesday. Of this 42 were in English hospitals, up 6 on yesterday and 8 down on last week with 33 coming in the past 10 days. It’s 4 weeks since hospital figures were in triple digits and for the most part they have stayed below 50. This brings the 7 day rolling average down again slightly to 36.14

The all settings figure of 126 is down 29 on yesterday and 50 down on last Wednesday, bringing that rolling average down under 90 to 87.29

To be honest, I'm not sure why you keep quoting the hospital deaths figures in the way you do mate ?

You can get number of deaths in English hospitals by date of death from the official figures, and by date of death is a more useful number to see trends on. So from today's figures you see



Pretty much anything in July will be revised a fair bit going forward, so looking at daily stats of deaths published tells us very little. You'd be better off looking back a week or so, or just looking at the NHS England chart by date of death where the trend is fairly obvious

 

[paultheblue]

Leadership for the Johnson Gang is "advising" people to do the right thing.

Two things wrong with that:

1/ they (the government) really want people to ignore all social distancing and become economically active again. They could give a flying one about the virus and its effects. They've been through that and they wont want to be held to account on it again. Thus, their attitude is "its not down to us, it's down to you"...and no mandatory use of face masks anywhere other than public tranpsort (and, as you point out, not even policed seriously there).

2/ even if they were genuinely advising people to do the right thing, the people they're advising are actually a child-like population who, for the past 40 years of neo-liberalism, have been dumbed down and told to treat nothing serious - other than making money - and so they simply, and quickly, revert back to a default selfish position of doing whatever they want to maximise their own enjoyment at the expense of others.


I'm hearing people on this thread talking about the "rights" of people to 'normalise' their lives again.

FFS, there are 2.5M people in this country who have locked themselves away for 4 months and who cant see a future for themselves. But the show must go on for the nobhead class, stuffing their gobs with crap food and swilling pints of ale down their stupid 'kin gobs. Perish the thought that they and the spiv industries that service them are held back in check to get on top of the virus that keeps millions prisoners in their own homes.

Everybody's circumstances are different, the pubs and restaurants being open makes no difference to me so I am not really in a position to criticise others for going out as 40 years ago I would probably have done the same.
This pandemic needed strong leadership from the beginning no grey areas people flouting the rules should fined or jailed mass gatherings of any sort nipped in the bud before they got unmanageable.

 

[brieverton]

Even if its a small minority being irresponsible, that small number has the potential to involve people in acquiring this virus, and suffering possible fatal consequences.