Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

What's the cost to the country of the first wave of this virus in terms of health expenditure - building of new hospitals, massive increase in amount of drugs and protective equipment to treat people; then add in the devastating cost of a family facing the trauma of losing people?

PRIVATE BUSINESSES need to adapt to serve whatever customers they attract in as healthy an environment as possible...which means not indoors for the forseeable.

Its been about 2 times the value of the UK mate. In 4 months.

And we havnt built one hospital, just lobbed a few hundred beds in some exhibition halls.

And companies are adapting to serve their customers for 4 months as well. Had any online deliveries since March?

 

[roydo]

We're not there yet. The return of the flu season will see this thing back with a vengeance.

Why?

 

[Harryflashman]

so my puzzle with it is because of the restrictions to numbers due to covid I don’t think you can get a table at a peak time Liverpool restaurant for about 10 days . Now I understand we’re in a post lockdown ‘Bonanza’ at the minute but it seems an odd choice . When the inevitable fall starts to come as the inevitable financial realities hit I’m not sure how much of a difference this will really make . Who knows I suppose but it seems an odd direction to go .

 

[davek]

Its been about 2 times the value of the UK mate. In 4 months.

And we havnt built one hospital, just lobbed a few hundred beds in some exhibition halls.

And companies are adapting to serve their customers for 4 months as well. Had any online deliveries since March?

You're choice mate. You either believe eating some rubbish from a restaurant and drinking a load of ale to save a few thousand poorly paid jobs is the price worth paying to fuel a second wave or you dont....and these places will be the drivers for it.

 

[roydo]

so my puzzle with it is because of the restrictions to numbers due to covid I don’t think you can get a table at a peak time Liverpool restaurant for about 10 days . Now I understand we’re in a post lockdown ‘Bonanza’ at the minute but it seems an odd choice . When the inevitable fall starts to come as the inevitable financial realities hit I’m not sure how much of a difference this will really make . Who knows I suppose but it seems an odd direction to go .

I think the cash they have lobbed at the hospitality industry is 50/50 vital/cosmetic. If that makes sense.

 

[davek]

Why?

Because it'll lead to the danger of co-infection. That'll be a killer.

 

[Harryflashman]

What's the cost to the country of the first wave of this virus in terms of health expenditure - building of new hospitals, massive increase in amount of drugs and protective equipment to treat people; then add in the devastating cost of a family facing the trauma of losing people?

PRIVATE BUSINESSES need to adapt to serve whatever customers they attract in as healthy an environment as possible...which means not indoors for the forseeable.

See I think rather than the off licence sales we had and large groups congregating in the street it might have made more sense to open beer gardens and allowed controlled return to normality and maybe even keep the insides shut . Then gradually ease those restrictions.

I can’t speak for all pubs but a number are doing it quite well , no standing socially distanced , ensuring groups aren’t gathering , sanitiser on entry etc . Look it’s not perfect but not everyone wants everyone to die

 

[Goat]

Why?

More people with colds = more people coughing and sneezing.

 

[Harryflashman]

I think the cash they have lobbed at the hospitality industry is 50/50 vital/cosmetic. If that makes sense.

I think that’s a decent assessment

 

[orchard]

Why?

There's an hypothesis that 4 Deg. Celsius is an ideal temperature for the badger, hence meat packing incidences.

 

[davek]

See I think rather than the off licence sales we had and large groups congregating in the street it might have made more sense to open beer gardens and allowed controlled return to normality and maybe even keep the insides shut . Then gradually ease those restrictions.

I can’t speak for all pubs but a number are doing it quite well , no standing socially distanced , ensuring groups aren’t gathering , sanitiser on entry etc . Look it’s not perfect but not everyone wants everyone to die

...and this isn't being encouraged - apart from vague promises to 'look sympathetically' at places wanting to extend more of their tables and chairs outside and avoiding the red tape of it.

Today's anouncements are designed to stimulate indoor drinking and eating.

 

[roydo]

You're choice mate. You either believe eating some rubbish from a restaurant and drinking a load of ale to save a few thousand poorly paid jobs is the price worth paying to fuel a second wave or you dont....and these places will be the drivers for it.

Oh I aint going no where other than Sainsburys (for 10 minutes with no queues) till next year mate. If ever.

My prisim if you like.

You are waiting for a 2nd wave. I place enough trust in folk to believe that wont happen. There will be local outbreaks, no doubt, but the economy has to get going. Slowly, slowly.

 

[roydo]

More people with colds = more people coughing and sneezing.

Aye, thats a fair point. Just dont go out/wear a mask dont be near people

 

[davek]

Oh I aint going no where other than Sainsburys (for 10 minutes with no queues) till next year mate. If ever.

My prisim if you like.

You are waiting for a 2nd wave. I place enough trust in folk to believe that wont happen. There will be local outbreaks, no doubt, but the economy has to get going. Slowly, slowly.

That's just word play.

There was local outbreaks in the first wave, and we all know where they were. That was the first wave, which we haven't even flattened. The next uptick of cases will be the second wave, NOT a series of local difficulties.

 

[davek]

Aye, thats a fair point. Just dont go out/wear a mask dont be near people

...or dont sit / stand for hours in a confined space surrounded by lots of people....