Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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peteblue said:
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The real problem is that 20 and 30 year olds are currently refusing to behave like adults. Quite frankly they are demonstrating absolutely zero levels of responsibility.....meanwhile the rest of us continue to spoil and make excuses for them....
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Don't worry dears, remember there is a ring of steel around the most vulnerable, after all we did hear this from Johnson and Hancock fellas, so it must be true. So keep calm and stay isolated...
 
Deckard2049 said:
As someone in the 20-30 age group I think this is a little harsh. I’m seeing a lot of talk on social media which is demonstrating that a lot of younger people are starting to grow frustrated with the restrictions in place. Thinking of your own life could obviously be deemed as selfish, but when you see boomers and older breaking the lockdown restrictions regularly and showing no common sense to protect themselves, why should the burden fall on the young? As an example and I’ll admit it freely I’m fed up of seeing pensioners jumping the queue at supermarkets and shops to take advantage of this situation when the whole point of giving them specific shopping hours was to limit their interaction with the general population not to give them a free ride to browse around as much as they like. It seems to be that it’s the older generations who are mostly anti face mask as well. And don’t tell me that the 40+ generation aren’t part of the groups sunning themselves on the beaches.

At the end of the day, we’ve reached what Whitty and Valance spoke about all those weeks ago- people are fed up and have quite simply had enough of lockdowns and restrictions. I don’t think that’s restricted to one age group.

Boris has come out today and basically said younger people have a very, very small risk from this virus and the measures are in place to protect the vulnerable in society to whom the virus does pose a serious risk. So you’re asking people to put their own lives on hold for the good of everyone else. Easy to say, harder to get people to do. Especially for a long time. And especially when you feel like the people who are more at risk aren’t actually trying to help themselves.

Obviously these are generalised statements- a lot of people are doing their best. A lot more people than at the start now aren’t. But it’s not just my age group who are starting to act up.
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These old sods didn't think about your generation when they voted Tory mate.
 
peteblue said:
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The real problem is that 20 and 30 year olds are currently refusing to behave like adults. Quite frankly they are demonstrating absolutely zero levels of responsibility.....meanwhile the rest of us continue to spoil and make excuses for them....
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The root of the problem is the likes of Dominic Cummings breaking the rules with impunity and Johnson defending him.
 
Lelouch said:
The majority of British people are arrogant above the law type people anyway
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Sorry mate but I don't agree with this at all. In my opinion, and in my experience, the vast majority of British people are both law abiding and generally speaking decent people, and on the whole have behaved responsibly during this crisis. It's the minority who have tended to act irresponsibly but it's their actions that get highlighted. You could call them the noisy minority I guess.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
Sorry mate but I don't agree with this at all. In my opinion, and in my experience, the vast majority of British people are both law abiding and generally speaking decent people, and on the whole have behaved responsibly during this crisis. It's the minority who have tended to act irresponsibly but it's their actions that get highlighted. You could call them the noisy minority I guess.
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Also you could call them Prime Minister, cabinet and their advisors ;)
 
The binman chronicles said:
But why would we see a huge spike especially early on? Like I said after 2 and a bit months of lockdown things won't immediately go from a dwindling number of cases to a mass problem as in that crowd there will only be a handful of infected people at most and at least back then there were still less interactions once they got back home.

This rings true when you look at the probable dates when the virus first came into Europe, Italy believe they had it before Christmas. It's that tipping point when enough people are infected does it then spiral out of control very quickly, the question is can they catch this before you get the on rush of hospitalisations which is by then already a couple of weeks too late.

I would like nothing more to be proven wrong and the virus just disappears but unfortunately it's still around, our starting point is worse than March and too many overly confident people and lack of controls does not equate to a happy ending.
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Mate, even after the next phase of unlocking restrictions next weekend, the country is still miles away from the normality we experienced before lockdown. Social distancing will still be part and parcel of daily life, even if a small number disregard the guidelines like we've seen at beaches, demonstrations, street parties and last nights football celebrations. Where social distancing can't be adhered to many are wearing face masks, whether voluntarily or compulsory. Before lockdown there were over a million people attending weekly mass gatherings at sporting events and hundreds of thousands more going to concerts, theatres and the cinema.. Probably millions went to night clubs, played contact sports, attended gyms, went to social receptions such as weddings, christenings, parties and funerals

Add to this that we have contact tracing in place and the testing ability that is a thousand times more efficient and available from when this first started. There may be localised outbreaks that can be controlled, but it is highly unlikely that this is going to take hold in quite the same way as it did before lockdown. Even if it does we are better placed to deal with it now, the medical people know more about it so can treat it better, the supply of PPE is now much better, we have in place more ICUs, breathing apparatus and ventilators plus we have the extra beds from the temporary hospitals. And hopefully they have learned lessons from what happened in the care homes.

The majority of people in this country are not badly affected by the virus and, for the large part, these are the people that are seriously at risk financially from a continuation in the lockdown. We need to protect their jobs which is why we are seeing a phased opening up. But it is nothing like what it was before shutdown, not at this stage anyway.
 
Minimeister said:
These old sods didn't think about your generation when they voted Tory mate.
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ha exactly.
plus the thing that people forget is that a lot of those people live alone or in small flats and don’t have anywhere to go. They don’t have a family or a family home.

if they do live with people they are likely to live with people their own age and so it might seem like they are breaking rules when in reality they are hanging with their flat mates. Which is not different to a family of 4 doing it.

i spoke to someone yesterday who has had a national trust estate to herself during lockdown because it’s been shut to the public. You are talking acres of the most beautiful land to herself. Not all lockdowns are created equally.

ive been really cautious but to be honest and still am for personal reasons but the Cummings thing totally destroyed any unity and ‘we are in it together‘ and so why should that generation give a f*** about a generation that doesn’t care about them.
 
toffeejack said:
Get a grip ffs boris you imbecile, honestly, how on earth are words like this going to help in any way?

And so I say to everybody, you may think that you're not going to get it and you're immortal and invincible and so on - and very likely that's true, particularly if you're a young person
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What was the context in which he said that. In isolation it does look a very stupid thing to say but I've so often seen these things taken out of context and when you look at the full statement it doesn't look so bad.
 
peteblue said:
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The real problem is that 20 and 30 year olds are currently refusing to behave like adults. Quite frankly they are demonstrating absolutely zero levels of responsibility.....meanwhile the rest of us continue to spoil and make excuses for them....
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A bit unfair on one age group Pete. From what I saw there was probably a good cross section of ages.

I'm not overly concerned from a covid perspective tbh. If you were on the ground there the vast majority would actually be a good metre away from each other which would be acceptable from next week. Plus it's outside in hot conditions. I'm more concerned about the drunkenness, the fighting and stabbings, and the absolute mess the selfish sods left behind. In fact the downright disrespect they showed to the local people. Shocking
 
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