Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Catfish Blues]

Do the ONS give regional figures for this survey or just national?

They've started giving regional figures, but, because their sample across the country as a whole is only about 25,000 people, it's nigh on impossible to make too much from them.

From https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...covid19infectionsurveypilot/england25june2020

Regional analysis

New regional modelling indicates there is no evidence of difference in the proportion of people testing positive for COVID-19 between regions

The analysis in this section is exploratory and based on new modelling conducted by our research partners at the University of Oxford and the University of Manchester.

There is not enough evidence to say with confidence that there is a difference in infection rates between regions. Because of the low number of people testing positive sampled in the survey, there is high uncertainty in the regional estimates for this period as indicated by the relatively large credible intervals across most regions.

 

[COYBL25]

Where are they drinking it? In the streets?

There’s a small square with benches facing the restaurants.

The problem isn’t really the drinking, it’s the lack of toilets tbh

 

[dublinbluenose]

This is great

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Holy moly the fist whiff of responsibility the office deserves...

Boris Johnson's urgent warning over 'serious' coronavirus spike

Bournemouth East MP Tobias Ellwood echoed calls from Dorset Police and the council for people to stay away

www.birminghammail.co.uk

 

[LinekersLegs]

Basically looks like all of the protests in the US in late May lead to infections(shocker I know) among the mostly young crowds, which also explains why deaths havent seen a rise a month later as the younger people are far less effected.

There is thankfully very little evidence that the protests have lead to a spike.

New York City reports no protest-related upticks in Covid-19

New York City has reported fewer than 350 new cases per day in the last week.

www.politico.com

Similarly the outdoor parties during Memorial Day or spring break in Florida don’t seem to have either.

Think the more likely explanation is a combination of a) controls at nursing homes have improved b) seniors are self shielding c) as the economy opens back up younger workers are more exposed and more likely to go out d) high temperatures in South mean more in air conditioned areas that have opened up.

 

[toffeejack]

Get a grip ffs boris you imbecile, honestly, how on earth are words like this going to help in any way?

And so I say to everybody, you may think that you're not going to get it and you're immortal and invincible and so on - and very likely that's true, particularly if you're a young person

 

[paultheblue]

Get a grip ffs boris you imbecile, honestly, how on earth are words like this going to help in any way?

And so I say to everybody, you may think that you're not going to get it and you're immortal and invincible and so on - and very likely that's true, particularly if you're a young person

I heard him say that, talk about mixed messages does he still not understand that it is not just the old that can catch this decrease?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Packed Bars Serve Up New Rounds Of COVID Contagion - KFF Health News

State officials are pointing to reopened bars as a cause of local spikes in coronavirus cases. Bars are tailor-made for the spread of the virus, with a cacophony of conversations that require raised voices and alcohol, which can impede judgment.

khn.org

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Deckard2049]

In Norway, Gymgoers Avoid Infections as Virus Recedes

In an unusual experiment, researchers found no coronavirus infections among thousands of people allowed to return to their gyms.

www.nytimes.com

Everything boils down to getting the number of cases as low as possible and that people actually follow the rules.

That rules England out then.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[LinekersLegs]

Does seem to be younger people. However, I think there is a significant risk these younger people pass It on to those at higher risk though, which in time will filter through to deaths.

I think I’d expect to see deaths climbing again in the US in the next 3-4 weeks.

Hope to God I am wrong.

Agree and even if it is confined to mainly younger people if a lot are infected then fatalities will still rise - just not as much as if it gets into a nursing home.

Sadly there already appears to be an uptick in deaths

 

[peteblue]

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Holy moly the fist whiff of responsibility the office deserves...

Boris Johnson's urgent warning over 'serious' coronavirus spike

Bournemouth East MP Tobias Ellwood echoed calls from Dorset Police and the council for people to stay away

www.birminghammail.co.uk

The real problem is that 20 and 30 year olds are currently refusing to behave like adults. Quite frankly they are demonstrating absolutely zero levels of responsibility.....meanwhile the rest of us continue to spoil and make excuses for them....

 

[LinekersLegs]

“At this time, it is clear that the rise in cases is largely driven by certain types of activities, including Texans congregating in bars. The actions in this executive order are essential to our mission to swiftly contain this virus and protect public health." @GovAbbott said.

 

[Deckard2049]

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The real problem is that 20 and 30 year olds are currently refusing to behave like adults. Quite frankly they are demonstrating absolutely zero levels of responsibility.....meanwhile the rest of us continue to spoil and make excuses for them....

As someone in the 20-30 age group I think this is a little harsh. I’m seeing a lot of talk on social media which is demonstrating that a lot of younger people are starting to grow frustrated with the restrictions in place. Thinking of your own life could obviously be deemed as selfish, but when you see boomers and older breaking the lockdown restrictions regularly and showing no common sense to protect themselves, why should the burden fall on the young? As an example and I’ll admit it freely I’m fed up of seeing pensioners jumping the queue at supermarkets and shops to take advantage of this situation when the whole point of giving them specific shopping hours was to limit their interaction with the general population not to give them a free ride to browse around as much as they like. It seems to be that it’s the older generations who are mostly anti face mask as well. And don’t tell me that the 40+ generation aren’t part of the groups sunning themselves on the beaches.

At the end of the day, we’ve reached what Whitty and Valance spoke about all those weeks ago- people are fed up and have quite simply had enough of lockdowns and restrictions. I don’t think that’s restricted to one age group.

Boris has come out today and basically said younger people have a very, very small risk from this virus and the measures are in place to protect the vulnerable in society to whom the virus does pose a serious risk. So you’re asking people to put their own lives on hold for the good of everyone else. Easy to say, harder to get people to do. Especially for a long time. And especially when you feel like the people who are more at risk aren’t actually trying to help themselves.

Obviously these are generalised statements- a lot of people are doing their best. A lot more people than at the start now aren’t. But it’s not just my age group who are starting to act up.