Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueStevie35]

9th day running the NHS have reported a sub 100 total for hospital deaths, however today’s figure of 79 is 27 up on yesterday and 2 up on last Saturday. 71 were in English hospitals, 25 up on yesterday and 4 up on last week with 61 occurring in the past 10 days

 

[COYBL25]

That's the sort of comment I'd have expected from the hardest nose Tory. And you have the temerity to make out you're a socialist lol

Matthew is typical of tens of thousands of young people down here in Cornwall. There is a lot of wealth down here but there are also a lot of people, mainly Cornishfolk, who genuinely struggle to make ends meet financially. That is balanced with a quality of lifestyle down here that is hard to replicate elsewhere. These people are honest hardworking types who often have 2 or 3 different jobs going to bring in the money they need. They don't moan about their lot like many do, or revert to crime. Despite wages down here in Cornwall being amongst the lowest in the UK, crime is almost non existent.

Matthews story is all too commonplace down here and the longer the economy is shutdown the worse it will get. But yeah. He's a 'kin nosebleed.

The rent in Newquay, as it is in most of North Cornwall is bonkers too, as anywhere half decent can command a premium through tourist rental.

A caravan costs 900 - 1000 per week !

That young man and his partner are most certainly not living the high life and most young people in seasonal jobs down there usually work the full Summer holiday without a single day off - they have no choice, as the money in the Summer pays for the Winter, when the work dries up.

 

[davek]

Is there any group in society that you don't despise and deride?

Despise?

You're trying too hard now. Maybe tone it down a bit if you intend to shadow me on here? Pace yourself.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Test 4: Operational challenges including testing and PPE are in hand, with supply able to meet future demand

Test 5: Confident that any adjustments to the current measures will not risk a second peak of infections that overwhelms the NHS

I'm not being flippant here, but how do you think a national emergency is managed? Because the Government and SAGE, while they should be listening to localised reports don't seem to be. Escalation at local level should inform national strategy. If an area looks at those 5 tests and says 'we aren't meeting 3 of those' but national guidance says a policy will be introduced nationally without local control, the area assessment says it's not safe but the policy will happen regardless.

If I said 'nationally our average is 0.5 so schools, restaurants and cinemas can open!' Now it may be that the average in that scenario is from data where everyone returns a result of between 0.4-0.6. You might then you might think 'great I'll go to the cinema'.

Would you think the same if the national average was 0.6 but it was averaged between a data range of 0.3-1.2?

I'm sorry that doesn't answer my post. You've provided zero back up to the statement made in your previous post, and neither have you yet answered the question I posed a number of posts ago.

I fully accept what you say about different locations being at different stages. Down here in Cornwall for instance, nobody has died of the virus for 2 weeks, we have only 2 people hospitalised with the virus, and only recorded 2 new infections in the last 7 days. Granted we have less than 500,000 population, but even per capita those figures are by far the best in the country. Compare that with Liverpool. But what is the point of opening up in Cornwall, and other areas with low infection, unless we restrict travel into said area's. So unless you ban travel, regional reopening is pointless. So you either open everywhere now, or wait until everywhere has low infections and open then. Doing the former risks high er infection rates. Doing the latter risks higher economic fallout when the risks are already skyhigh anyway.

These aren't easy decisions that have to be made.

 

[davek]

how does you being an arsehole and dismissing somebodies very real fears translate to that ? All you’ve got to say is “it’s a terrible situation and I feel for him but what we need to do is is think of the many and specifically the vulnerable seek to extend that protection “

instead you Had the temerity to accuse him of lacking empathy and tell him , in a rant I’d expect from Norman Tebbit , that he’s got it made . You talk about revolution well you better hope it never happens because it’s petty commissars like you that last 5 mins when the actual fighting starts .

teamwork , helping those in need , giving a hand to the person next to you especially if they slip that’s what I was brought up to believe and it’s what decent people should always strive to do not dismissing someone for shopping at primark or greggs .

Frankly You’re a snobbish Tory in all but economic policy.

edit - don’t tell me a lack of gyms and cbt doesn’t have an impact .

He hasn't got a terrible situation. FFS, if he had to live in Liverpool during the 80s he'd have had something to complain about.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I know ptsd cbt counselling waiting list in my area was 3 to 4 month waiting list I can only assume we’re looking well in excess of 6 now .

2 weeks in my area. Was 18 months, however, we are benefiting from the brian drain from England now , lots more health and social professionals moving in for various reasons such work practices and economic.
And we (CMHT) have linked in with the GPs to offer triage and support specifically to COVID consequences, which has been running for 9 weeks now...

 

[davek]

But if you fall slightly outside of that clinical threshold and you have troubles, you should suck it up and stop moaning.

No, he should think to himself "D'you know what, I'm relatively blessed given that a plague hangs over the country that's taken 68,000 people and destroyed the health of hundreds of thousands more, I think I'll swerve talking to the BBC about my minor difficulties".

 

[BlueStevie35]

128 is the overall figure for the day, 45 down on yesterday and 53 down on last Saturday. It brings the 7 day rolling average for all settings down further to 132.43 with the hospital average showing a very slight drop to 65.43

 

[davek]

That's the sort of comment I'd have expected from the hardest nose Tory. And you have the temerity to make out you're a socialist lol

Matthew is typical of tens of thousands of young people down here in Cornwall. There is a lot of wealth down here but there are also a lot of people, mainly Cornishfolk, who genuinely struggle to make ends meet financially. That is balanced with a quality of lifestyle down here that is hard to replicate elsewhere. These people are honest hardworking types who often have 2 or 3 different jobs going to bring in the money they need. They don't moan about their lot like many do, or revert to crime. Despite wages down here in Cornwall being amongst the lowest in the UK, crime is almost non existent.

Matthews story is all too commonplace down here and the longer the economy is shutdown the worse it will get. But yeah. He's a 'kin nosebleed.

Ha Ha Ha.

Getting a lecture in morality from a Thatcherite.

Maybe I should "give my head a wobble"...just to see what rabbit hole I've fallen down.

 

[davek]

128 is the overall figure for the day, 45 down on yesterday and 53 down on last Saturday. It brings the 7 day rolling average for all settings down further to 132.43 with the hospital average showing a very slight drop to 65.43

Get the BBQ on. Wooo Hooo.

 

[Tea_drinker]

Just terrific to see so many people out in town spreading good vibes and spending a bit of cash today. People looking great; smiling, having a beer or coffee with friends.

The fightback against the forces of misery has well and truly commenced.

 

[Jebus_lives]

No, he should think to himself "D'you know what, I'm relatively blessed given that a plague hangs over the country that's taken 68,000 people and destroyed the health of hundreds of thousands more, I think I'll swerve talking to the BBC about my minor difficulties".

Don't see why.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I'm sorry that doesn't answer my post. You've provided zero back up to the statement made in your previous post, and neither have you yet answered the question I posed a number of posts ago.

I fully accept what you say about different locations being at different stages. Down here in Cornwall for instance, nobody has died of the virus for 2 weeks, we have only 2 people hospitalised with the virus, and only recorded 2 new infections in the last 7 days. Granted we have less than 500,000 population, but even per capita those figures are by far the best in the country. Compare that with Liverpool. But what is the point of opening up in Cornwall, and other areas with low infection, unless we restrict travel into said area's. So unless you ban travel, regional reopening is pointless. So you either open everywhere now, or wait until everywhere has low infections and open then. Doing the former risks high er infection rates. Doing the latter risks higher economic fallout when the risks are already skyhigh anyway.

These aren't easy decisions that have to be made.

Given I'm not going to post confidential information on a football forum you probably won't get that.

But what specific questions would you like answering?

 

[davek]

Just terrific to see so many people out in town spreading good vibes and spending a bit of cash today. People looking great; smiling, having a beer or coffee with friends.

The fightback against the forces of misery has well and truly commenced.

Hopefully that's all they're spreading.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Despise?

You're trying too hard now. Maybe tone it down a bit if you intend to shadow me on here? Pace yourself.

Deride is ok though.

What term would you prefer for your attacks on various sections of society?