Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Harryflashman]

He's 22 or something.

Pretty sure I felt invincible with about 10 bob when I was that age.

He wont be without shelter, he wont go hungry...and this virus wont be around forever.

ah so if he loses his home sound . Like I say you’re turning into a very weird definition of a socialist

 

[davek]

I've lived on the beach in Cornwall too at his age and theres nothing wrong with that, not everyone wants to wander around cities full of scally no marks. There is very little work around there at any time but at least hes been having a go.

He's relatively blessed.

A cakewalk? No. A young man facing what others in this country are facing in terms of health and incarceration? Equally no.

 

[davek]

ah so if he loses his home sound . Like I say you’re turning into a very weird definition of a socialist

Not at all.

I've stated time after time: my concern is for the most vulnerable in this nation right now - the 2.5 million vulnerable people shielding.

 

[Jebus_lives]

He lives by the beach in Cornwall with his bird and is sorted for pockert money.

FFS, he's made.

He wants to try and empathise a bit with people in this country facing a death sentence or a long time in self imposed internal exile from the rest of society.

Is there any group in society that you don't despise and deride?

 

[Harryflashman]

Not at all.

I've stated time after time: my concern is for the most vulnerable in this nation right now - the 2.5 million vulnerable people shielding.

how does you being an arsehole and dismissing somebodies very real fears translate to that ? All you’ve got to say is “it’s a terrible situation and I feel for him but what we need to do is is think of the many and specifically the vulnerable seek to extend that protection “

instead you Had the temerity to accuse him of lacking empathy and tell him , in a rant I’d expect from Norman Tebbit , that he’s got it made . You talk about revolution well you better hope it never happens because it’s petty commissars like you that last 5 mins when the actual fighting starts .

teamwork , helping those in need , giving a hand to the person next to you especially if they slip that’s what I was brought up to believe and it’s what decent people should always strive to do not dismissing someone for shopping at primark or greggs .

Frankly You’re a snobbish Tory in all but economic policy.

edit - don’t tell me a lack of gyms and cbt doesn’t have an impact .

 

[Jebus_lives]

Not at all.

I've stated time after time: my concern is for the most vulnerable in this nation right now - the 2.5 million vulnerable people shielding.

But if you fall slightly outside of that clinical threshold and you have troubles, you should suck it up and stop moaning.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

We seem to have bottomed out in the 1000s of those testing positive, which is a bit concerning. I know there are a lot of daily tests now but I expected that figure to be in the hundreds by this stage. It will be interesting if the latest ONS figures show a continued drop in infection in the community.

It does seem pretty high still.

 

[Brennan]

how does you being an arsehole and dismissing somebodies very real fears translate to that ? All you’ve got to say is “it’s a terrible situation and I feel for him but what we need to do is is think of the many and specifically the vulnerable seek to extend that protection “

instead you Had the temerity to accuse him of lacking empathy and tell him , in a rant I’d expect from Norman Tebbit , that he’s got it made . You talk about revolution well you better hope it never happens because it’s petty commissars like you that last 5 mins when the actual fighting starts .

teamwork , helping those in need , giving a hand to the person next to you especially if they slip that’s what I was brought up to believe and it’s what decent people should always strive to do not dismissing someone for shopping at primark or greggs .

Frankly You’re a snobbish Tory in all but economic policy.

edit - don’t tell me a lack of gyms and cbt doesn’t have an impact .

He's shown who he is from his posts about cycling through town looking down on the great unwashed going shopping or sitting in a park.

I've never known somebody present themselves as 'socialist' who seems to hate so many of the common folk.

 

[Jebus_lives]

He's shown who he is from his posts about cycling through town looking down on the great unwashed going shopping or sitting in a park.

I've never known somebody present themselves as 'socialist' who seems to hate so many of the common folk.

Unite and join the Revolution*

*Unless you shop at sports direct, live in Cornwall, enjoy pasties, are a seasonal worker, enjoy exercise, aren't a front line worker, are concerned about the economy and paying your bills etc etc

 

[peteblue]

Sounds like a guy trying to do the right things but got kicked in the nuts by this hysterical lockdown. Theres nothing wrong with HIM.

This really. Sounds like bad timing regarding the furlough, through no fault of his own. It’s a pity the rules did not allow for those in the middle of changing jobs, which really they should......

 

[Barnfred 55]

"Matthew" sounds like a right 'kin nosebleed.

That's the sort of comment I'd have expected from the hardest nose Tory. And you have the temerity to make out you're a socialist lol

Matthew is typical of tens of thousands of young people down here in Cornwall. There is a lot of wealth down here but there are also a lot of people, mainly Cornishfolk, who genuinely struggle to make ends meet financially. That is balanced with a quality of lifestyle down here that is hard to replicate elsewhere. These people are honest hardworking types who often have 2 or 3 different jobs going to bring in the money they need. They don't moan about their lot like many do, or revert to crime. Despite wages down here in Cornwall being amongst the lowest in the UK, crime is almost non existent.

Matthews story is all too commonplace down here and the longer the economy is shutdown the worse it will get. But yeah. He's a 'kin nosebleed.

 

[Harryflashman]

This really. Sounds like bad timing regarding the furlough, through no fault of his own. It’s a pity the rules did not allow for those in the middle of changing jobs, which really they should......

mad that I’d defend this government but given what they had to work with they did a pretty good job , trying to catch everyone is probably impossible . Increases to universal Credit might have been the way to go but in terms of fullough you’d imagine whatever the policy they’d always miss a few people .

 

[COYBL25]

Is there any group in society that you don't despise and deride?

He thinks the Chinese are a great bunch of lads, if that helps ?

 

[Barnfred 55]

If the TTI forms part of those 5 tests and If every assessment from every agency involved says otherwise and a Director of Public health say otherwise based on practical assessment but the Government says 'open up' because we've got milestones to hit, who is right?

Did the TTI form part of it? I don't recall it did.

Every assessment from every agency involved?. You'll need to expand on that. The only official thing I saw was the scientists didn't approve regrading alert level to 3. But that wasn't part of the 5 tests anyway.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Did the TTI form part of it? I don't recall it did.

Every assessment from every agency involved?. You'll need to expand on that. The only official thing I saw was the scientists didn't approve regrading alert level to 3. But that wasn't part of the 5 tests anyway.

Test 4: Operational challenges including testing and PPE are in hand, with supply able to meet future demand

Test 5: Confident that any adjustments to the current measures will not risk a second peak of infections that overwhelms the NHS

I'm not being flippant here, but how do you think a national emergency is managed? Because the Government and SAGE, while they should be listening to localised reports don't seem to be. Escalation at local level should inform national strategy. If an area looks at those 5 tests and says 'we aren't meeting 3 of those' but national guidance is introduced without local control, the area assessment still says it's not safe, but the policy will happen regardless.

If I said 'nationally our average is 0.5 so schools, restaurants and cinemas can open!' Now it may be that the average in that scenario is from data where everyone returns a result of between 0.4-0.6. You might then you might think 'great I'll go to the cinema'.

Would you think the same if the national average was 0.6 but it was averaged between a data range of 0.3-1.2?