Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[davek]

Haha, you'd make a great Tory mate !

To be fair, I last went into Primark something like 30 years ago, but a man who doesn't appreciate a pasty, is a man with something missing in his life.





Even if that something is cholesterol laden

I appreciate them, just not enough to want to give or receive a deadly infection for one.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I appreciate them, just not enough to want to give or receive a deadly infection for one.

Once we have the trade deal with America you might not have a choice.

 

[peteblue]

Once we have the trade deal with America you might not have a choice.

Chlorinated pasties.......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Chlorinated pasties.......

Yum.

 

[Neiler]

Virus in Italy by December - waste water study

The coronavirus was already present in two large cities in northern Italy in December, over two months before the first case was detected, a national health institute study of waste water has found.

www.rte.ie

 

[Neiler]

Some American States experiencing a second wave, some of those lock down protests and opening up early chickens coming home to roost.

 

[Neiler]

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Fresh concerns over privacy and profit in NHS COVID data deals

Documents released to openDemocracy suggest tech firms will profit from controversial deals – and that government gave misleading assurances.

www.opendemocracy.net

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Government publishes coronavirus (COVID-19) R value and growth rates

The government has today (Friday 19 June) published UK wide and regional growth rates for England for the first time, alongside R values.

www.gov.uk

 

[Barnfred 55]

Sorry had to be in and out of meetings.

Replying across two posts as well so forgive me if I miss something.

I'm not sure anyone is realistically opposed to easing lockdown. You'd be mad if you were. However, there is most definitely a balance that needs to be struck between reopening where it is safe to do so and reopening because people are frustrated at the length of lockdown and the government need ways to distract from their failings (and there has been plenty).

Everything has been a process of catching up after the initial poor response and as a result things have been rushed or announced when they aren't ready (100,000 tests, 200,000 tests, antibody tests, App) purely for positive headlines. The problem is that each announcement lacks any substance and either hasn't been consulted across the country or is in direct contradiction to the messaging up until that point.

When things are introduced they are done so without any supporting guidance or consideration for local/regional impact. They assume that every area is the same and has the same infrastructure. There is promise of support to deliver initiatives that never arrives or the initiative changes before the support arrives. Much of the guidance runs counter to the government's own standards or measures, the law rarely reflects the new policy change so policy is announced but without statutory or regulatory backing.

Where people do push back or escalate nothing comes back (especially at ministerial level) but nevermind because it's Friday again and they've cooked up another distraction for the public that has no substance and is just confusing for the H&SC system.

There is no transparency to the public because to do that would be to let the public know how much risk there is and the danger of easing certain things at certain times contrary to public health advice; but we all need to catch up because everyone is now suffering greatly because of an appalling lack of response by the government who didn't take it seriously and continue to try to manage their reputation rather than a coordinated response.

It's not what they do it's the way that they do it

 

[Nymzee]

And you speak for the shielded do you?

The 4 that are members of my family don't want people to lose their jobs in their name. And I've heard many others on phone ins and talk shows say similar.

The 4 members of your family shielding would rather risk their life rather than some random person losing their job? Hmm.

 

[Barnfred 55]

The 4 members of your family shielding would rather risk their life rather than some random person losing their job? Hmm.

That isn't what I said and if you had any intelligence you would recognise that. Don't disappoint me Nymz

 

[Nymzee]

That isn't what I said and if you had any intelligence you would recognise that. Don't disappoint me Nymz

I mean that’s basically what you’re saying.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It's not what they do it's the way that they do it

It's both.

 

[Jebus_lives]

We've all just spent 3 months bored to suicide for them. What more could they seriously expect?

There is also an argument that if people are that ill then what is their quality of life and is it worth clinging on to? A lot of people seek euthanasia these days. Same people would certainly prefer a few weeks with their loved ones than a few months all alone, afraid, worrying and knowing the end is near anyway.

If you're bored to suicide...There's always euthanasia to consider. Just a thought.