Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Jebus_lives]

No. I’ve obeyed the lockdown and so should he...this hyperventilating angst that is being generated though is oxygen to this guy. He should have been slapped with a fine or whatever Kinnock got for doing the same.......

Sacked then?

 

[DrEFC]

NHS England funding and productivity

At the start of the 2010 Parliament, the NHS was faced with the most austere funding settlement in its history

www.parliament.uk

Maybe Pete should have a perusal of that.

 

[peteblue]

That's not the point Pete. Labour and Kinnock aren't telling the country what to do. Boris, to whom Cummings is a senior aide, is.

This is not about Cummings per se. It's about retaining some elements of support and respect from the country in the battle against coronavirus.

Then they should sack him.....

 

[Jebus_lives]

Maybe Pete should have a perusal of that.

Pete only takes note of the Telegraph, Guido Fawkes and the graffiti in his pub toilet*

*I'll leave you to decide which is the most credible source

 

[DrEFC]

I don’t see how you can blame the teachers. It was clearly the Chinese.

The way Trump says Chy-NA is constantly on repeat in my head.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Then they should sack him.....

Yes they should, but they won't

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

So the question is simple, Will the Prime Minister stick to the rules he imposed on us - or will he stick with his closest adviser?

 

[tsubaki]

Pete only takes note of the Telegraph, Guido Fawkes and the graffiti in his pub toilet*

*I'll leave you to decide which is the most credible source

that you pretend they are different sources says how far down the rabbit hole you are

 

[Catfish Blues]

I'm annoyed with the response from the cops as well: if they did speak to him and he wasn't at least given a caution - should be a fine - then what does it say.

To be fair to the coppers, they've taken a Softly, Softly ( yes, I remember it on TV ) approach all through this, but especially at the beginning, so they've likely done with Cummings what they'd have done with anybody else.

Putting that to one side, if the Tories continue to defend Cummings, then they're making a massive mistake, because it'll highlight how far removed from ordinary people they are, and is the sort of thing which could bite their arse in the future. It'll make no difference to the core Tory vote, but it's the sort of thing which floating voters will remember.

 

[Jebus_lives]

that you pretend they are different sources says how far down the rabbit hole you are

Fun fact: the Rabbit Hole is the name of Pete's pub.

 

[mill]

How would you know, seriously. Government expenditure is a matter of record. You are a small cog in a very large machine, you may get the odd visibility of one part of the finance within a single hospital, but will not see the whole picture apart from the odd briefing.

The House of Commons keeps a full record, which obviously is agreed by the political parties. Now as you can see, as a percentage of GDP there is a slight reduction, but amongst other things that is determined by the growth and strength of the economy, however the expenditure is real money actually spent, and it has risen and continues to do so. How the NHS decide to spend the money is an NHS issue, but we, the taxpayer and the government, cannot be faulted for the amount we give......

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How would you know, seriously. Government expenditure is a matter of record. You are a small cog in a very large machine, you may get the odd visibility of one part of the finance within a single hospital, but will not see the whole picture apart from the odd briefing.

The House of Commons keeps a full record, which obviously is agreed by the political parties. Now as you can see, as a percentage of GDP there is a slight reduction, but amongst other things that is determined by the growth and strength of the economy, however the expenditure is real money actually spent, and it has risen and continues to do so. How the NHS decide to spend the money is an NHS issue, but we, the taxpayer and the government, cannot be faulted for the amount we give......

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so what you are telling me is that the NHS spend as a percentage of GDP has fallen consistently each year of the last 10 years whilst the population has grown 10% (and for what it’s worth the FTSE All Share has returned 108% (including the most recent Covid related falls of 25%)?

 

[peteblue]

Because I have eyes Pete. Don't dare attach the tax payer to the government as if I'm attacking them for not coughing up enough, nor a graph of spends spanning over decades when the population is much, much bigger, and healthcare more complex. The NHS is not a waste of money or resources, and some things you have to be a cog in the machine to see...

I‘m really not having a go. It’s just that I prefer facts rather than someone else’s interpretations, I can do the interpretation myself if presented with the facts.....Obviously the NHS is not a waste of money nor resources, but you and I know that the NHS does indeed waste money...but perhaps for a different thread....

 

[Barnfred 55]

Yes they should, but they won't

On their head be it then. They will lose the supprt of large sectors of the population

I'm hoping that they will still see sense

 

[Goat]

So the question is simple, Will the Prime Minister stick to the rules he imposed on us - or will he stick with his closest adviser?

What do you think?

Hes already hiding.

 

[tsubaki]

To be fair to the coppers, they've taken a Softly, Softly ( yes, I remember it on TV ) approach all through this, but especially at the beginning, so they've likely done with Cummings what they'd have done with anybody else.

Putting that to one side, if the Tories continue to defend Cummings, then they're making a massive mistake, because it'll highlight how far removed from ordinary people they are, and is the sort of thing which could bite their arse in the future. It'll make no difference to the core Tory vote, but it's the sort of thing which floating voters will remember.

This is the one thing I disagree with in your post - other than the drones we see here and on Twitter, this is going to wind up most people.