Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Regarding this 2 week quarantine when returning from holiday. Ive got an holiday to Greece booked in August so if that rule applies then ill need to have 4 weeks off work which i can't. But if i don't go ill loose my money as its not the tour operators fault i can't go .I would think there'll be alot of people in the same boat through no fault of there own .
 
Our numbers line up with Italy and Spain and France...all of whom went into early lockdown, were they on holiday as well....
We are second in the world for deaths. I wouldn’t say we lined up.
I think from an economic perspective the stimulus provided has been very good, albeit slow and not perfect. The policy seemed to be let’s look and see what everyone else is doing first (that isn’t a dig, it’s an observation)

From a health perspective I think they’ve been found lacking. I think they were slow to react, got their original policy wrong, were not draconian enough with their measures or clear enough with their message and I think the got caught up in the wrong things (like 100k tests - which they didn’t meet - rather than focussing on track and trace solutions).

You can think they’ve done well from an economic stimulus perspective and not think they’ve done well from a health perspective.
 
that doesn't mean a 2nd wave though. If they keep the R rate at anything below 1.5 then it's not a 'wave'
Agreed but, the R rate at below 1 is the target for most countries I have seen quoted all countries also state that anything above 1 is worrying, yea not necessarily second wave but indicative of easing lockdown is a risk, bear in mind Germany are just over a week into their relaxation!
 
Regarding this 2 week quarantine when returning from holiday. Ive got an holiday to Greece booked in August so if that rule applies then ill need to have 4 weeks off work which i can't. But if i don't go ill loose my money as its not the tour operators fault i can't go .I would think there'll be alot of people in the same boat through no fault of there own .

Hancock says it's unlikely there'll be any holidays this summer
 
Regarding this 2 week quarantine when returning from holiday. Ive got an holiday to Greece booked in August so if that rule applies then ill need to have 4 weeks off work which i can't. But if i don't go ill loose my money as its not the tour operators fault i can't go .I would think there'll be alot of people in the same boat through no fault of there own .

You're not going to Greece in August sorry to say.
 
Deaths at least finally look to be going down in today's figures. Need this to continue now

It's hard to tell mate, there is defo a downward trend but maybe still not as rapidly as we need. If you look at the last few days deaths on Worldometer, but then review those same dates at the end of this week, you'll likely find they'll be higher by the end of the week given a delay in reporting all deaths.

Hopefully though.
 
Regarding this 2 week quarantine when returning from holiday. Ive got an holiday to Greece booked in August so if that rule applies then ill need to have 4 weeks off work which i can't. But if i don't go ill loose my money as its not the tour operators fault i can't go .I would think there'll be alot of people in the same boat through no fault of there own .

I’d get looking at the Robin Hood camp in Rhyl, that’s only if they lift the sentries on the Welsh border.
 
Once lockdown was eased it was only going to increase.
However, it is to what extent that will be vital. For example, I've been told that the modelling suggests that the schools going back will raise the r0 rate by 0.2-0.3

Now, the government aren't sure where we are yet (somewhere above 0.5 and up to 1), so that in itself could push the rate above 1 without everything else.

Relaxed rules on employment, more people on public transport and reduced restrictions on exercising and meeting up are all due within the next two weeks.

Each of those you would suspect could easily have a similar increase, so when you combine them all together it looks unrealistic to think we'll keep it below 1.

I'm more concerned whether we can keep it below 1.5 as I have the growing belief that they've accepted that more people will need to die in the coming months.

They've upped capacity with the nightingales in place etc., have more ventilators and staff are far more thoroughly trained - will they try and manage it below this?

Are we going to see restrictions put back in place straight away or will there be a cap that they will accept?
 
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