Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Piers Morgan helping him out as well. Remember when everyone complained that our future King was tested, but nothing when Piers Morgan, who doesn’t even have symptoms apparently, does.....
The rules a few weeks ago are different than they are now. He's a journalist and deemed key worker and he has mild symptoms.

Ergo: he's right to get tested, and legitimately doing so...as are his family.
 
Yes. They counted any test that have left the centre.
So the most recent stats I am aware of the gave the headline of 76k but had only actually *tested* 56k.
Another daft thing is a “processing” column that covers tests that are shipping/in lab is useful data and helpful in determining bottlenecks (a lot of California tests sat in labs awaiting manpower to complete them).

However there also needs to be “completed tests positive/negative” columns alongside it and it is the latter two that should be used in communication/performance metrics. South Korea gave an excellent template of good data presentation from January onwards so there wasn’t much need to reinvent the wheel if data accuracy was their goal.
 
From a scientific perspective, who do you think should be there that isn't?
It isn't just a scientific perspective Bruce, the fallout from this is so widespread there aren't many aspects of daily life that aren't affected.

If it were me I would have an immediate committee of maybe 6 people plus the minister. Two senior government people maybe the CSO and CMO, two academics and 2 from the Private sector. In this case with it being a virus, one would be from one of our major chemical companies, say Glaxo Beecham, and one from maybe finance, a senior banking executive perhaps. I'll tell you now the guys from the private sector will bring a completely different mind set to proceedings, they will be much more dynamic with a can do attitude, and a complete contrast to the permanent government people.

Under that I would have sub groups dealing with all the various aspects of this. I would bring in people from the private sector experienced in things like chemicals, logistics, transport, engineering, manufacturing, finance, travel, hospitality, and unions. People who know what it's like out there in the real world, but are also bright and can come up with idea's that wouldn't even cross an academics mind.
 
The rules a few weeks ago are different than they are now. He's a journalist and deemed key worker and he has mild symptoms.

Ergo: he's right to get tested, and legitimately doing so...as are his family.

Key worker ? I’ve wandered into another realm here......
 
To be fair, my understanding is that SAGE are primarily there for scientific discussions, so you wouldn't expect trade unions (for instance) to be there.
From the Govts own SAGE website

"The membership of SAGE depends on the nature of the emergency but it typically includes leading experts from within government and leading specialists from the fields of academia and industry."
 
It isn't just a scientific perspective Bruce, the fallout from this is so widespread there aren't many aspects of daily life that aren't affected.

If it were me I would have an immediate committee of maybe 6 people plus the minister. Two senior government people maybe the CSO and CMO, two academics and 2 from the Private sector. In this case with it being a virus, one would be from one of our major chemical companies, say Glaxo Beecham, and one from maybe finance, a senior banking executive perhaps. I'll tell you now the guys from the private sector will bring a completely different mind set to proceedings, they will be much more dynamic with a can do attitude, and a complete contrast to the permanent government people.

Under that I would have sub groups dealing with all the various aspects of this. I would bring in people from the private sector experienced in things like chemicals, logistics, transport, engineering, manufacturing, finance, travel, hospitality, and unions. People who know what it's like out there in the real world, but are also bright and can come up with idea's that wouldn't even cross an academics mind.

As I mentioned in a previous post, the SAGE committee are purely there to provide scientific advise to the government. No more, no less.
 
From the Govts own SAGE website

"The membership of SAGE depends on the nature of the emergency but it typically includes leading experts from within government and leading specialists from the fields of academia and industry."

As mentioned, these groups are primarily interested in understanding the virus, not producing a response to it.
 
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