Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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They may be able to track every person in the country, but it doesn't automatically follow that they would be able to use that ability to effectively contact trace. This app gives them that capability.

They can contact trace, smart phones means they can do whatever they want or need.

Optional wont work and they dont have the balls to infringe.
 
Has the government done this? Bit daft if so as it automatically calls into question their integrity. How did they get over the issue of test results? because surely if they say somebody has tested they have to say whether it was negative or positive.
Yes. They counted any test that have left the centre.
So the most recent stats I am aware of the gave the headline of 76k but had only actually *tested* 56k.
 
No doubt Hancock would have had himself tested 50,000 times in one day had he not found another way to 'cook the books'.

Piers Morgan helping him out as well. Remember when everyone complained that our future King was tested, but nothing when Piers Morgan, who doesn’t even have symptoms apparently, does.....
 
I would hope that those such as are on SAGE will be having robust discussions, as they're in possession of the information, and the background, to know what's what. Titheads like Piers Morgan have neither of those things, and nor do any of us on here. I'm just not sure what gives us the belief that we're in any position to critique what these committees recommend?
We're not. But there is need for oversight and others can provide it. Isn't that the reason we have watchdog organisations?

Massive u-turns have been made on strategy, under sourcing of vital equipment has been made, confusing methodology employed in counting cases / deaths. It's not as if there isn't a need to oversee SAGE is it?

In any case, scrutiny is part of the process toward doing things better...which is what we want, isn't it?
 
Piers Morgan helping him out as well. Remember when everyone complained that our future King was tested, but nothing when Piers Morgan, who doesn’t even have symptoms apparently, does.....
I'm sure that most of us have similar opinions with respect to Morgan. However, the difference back then was that there were very few tests available.
 
We're not. But there is need for oversight and others can provide it. Isn't that the reason we have watchdog organisations?

Massive u-turns have been made on strategy, under sourcing of vital equipment has been made, confusing methodology employed in counting cases / deaths. It's not as if there isn't a need to oversee SAGE is it?

In any case, scrutiny is part of the process toward doing things better...which is what we want, isn't it?

Of course, but I'll say again, mistakes are going to be inevitable when dealing with something like this, and it's also not something that will rest purely on the shoulders of the government. I mean that dodgy bloke from NHS procurement who set up his own business to flog PPE wasn't exactly doing so on the orders of Matt Hancock, he was just a bad egg. It happens, but I doubt we'd go and call the NHS murderererers due to it, would we?
 
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