Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[BlueToff]

I think they had to prepare , I certainly wouldn’t criticise them for Having them but not needing them.

My criticism is we could have probably prepared them beforehand.

But the argument that it's now bad that they're not being used is ridiculous.

They're a last resort. If we need them, they are there.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Excellent and interesting article

 

[Brisan123]

YERRSSSSSSSSS

The Government is planning on telling them to koff

 

[davek]

The British Banana Republic gratefully receives any aid from our friends in the international community.

 

[Brisan123]

One way of getting round those possible reporting category differences is the “all causes” mortality figures, which at least capture the overall impact on the nation including things like more heart attacks at home as people avoid ER out of fear or less road deaths due to lockdowns.

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests (Published 2020)

In seven hard-hit states, total deaths are nearly 50 percent higher than normal, according to new C.D.C. statistics, suggesting that the virus has killed far more people than the number in official counts.

www.nytimes.com

Measures of total deaths are also commonly used in countries without detailed accounting of causes of death. Right now, they are the most useful tool, several epidemiologists said, for measuring the impact of coronavirus in the United States, too.

“It gives you an overall sense of how big things are,” said Samuel Clark, a professor of sociology at Ohio State University, whose work is in demography and epidemiology. “For now, you can basically attribute the excess mortality to Covid-19. But you also grab all the things that are not Covid at all, but are probably created by the situation.”

However RTA deaths are way down

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Sorry, I didn’t realise you would be quoting the Guardian.....might as well set them all on fire.....or we could just staff them when we actually need them.......

Try this one in your fav the Daily Heil then Ali lad

Number of patients at 'empty' London Nightingale lower than ever

The number of patients being treated at the NHS's new showcase Nightingale Hospital fell to just 26 last week after managers failed to tackle a chronic nursing shortage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[peteblue]

Try this one in your fav the Daily Heil then Ali lad

Number of patients at 'empty' London Nightingale lower than ever

The number of patients being treated at the NHS's new showcase Nightingale Hospital fell to just 26 last week after managers failed to tackle a chronic nursing shortage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

So now your clinching argument comes from the Mail.......let me try and explain this...They are for overspill in case the real hospitals ICU gets overloaded. So far we have only used about 50% of our capacity, because we are all staying in and behaving ourselves. If the number of cases had exploded, because people had behaved like bells, then these units would be packed and staffed....but we have been good, so they haven’t......

 

[Brisan123]

I'm not sure if everybody on here quite understands just how our care/nursing home system works. I know you are a similar age to me so may have had parents who have "gone through" the system or even part of the system now. It's also important to distinguish between care homes and independent living arrangements in which elderly people live in communities.

Essentially people go in there once it has been decided that they can no longer be cared for in their own home, bearing in mind that most will already have had carers coming into their homes previously. They are mostly infirm to some degree or have some form of dementia. I have personal experience of 3 family members in care homes, my mum, who lived 3 months, my mum in law, who lived 10 months, and my wife's uncle, who lasted nearly 2 years. The average time spent in care homes is around 12 months, so my experience is pretty much indicative of that. So an average size care home with 100 residents would, on average, experience 2 deaths per week. All families are asked to sign an agreement on resuscitation/non resuscitation within 48 hours of admittance, and once the resident dies, such is the demand for beds that families are requested to have the room vacated of personal belongings by midnight the same day.

The standards of care homes varies greatly, and for most of us who rely on state subsidised beds it can be a heart wrenching experience for families as they have to choose between the few beds on offer. But the bottom line here is that the staff in these homes are dedicated, caring and very experienced in dispensing palliative care. In the event that any residents actually contract CV-19, then they are already in the best place to see out their final days. The majority are already so ill that hospitalisation would be pointless and they would be taking up an ICU bed of somebody else who would be more likely to pull through.

The worst thing about this virus for people in care homes is that they are currently prevented from seeing their loved ones. Although I believe they are looking at ways of lifting these restrictions with the use of PPE and social distancing.

Not quite true
Over 80% of the over 80 who catch covid 19 survive
That stat surprised me as well

Google Search

www.google.com

 

[COYBL25]

Because we haven't reached capacity in the actual hospitals...

Isn't that a good thing?

Doesn’t suit the DEATH, MURDER and SCUM agenda.

 

[LinekersLegs]

However RTA deaths are way down

Aye and the improved air quality will probably have reduced respiratory fatalities although teasing out that data given its the same category that a lot of coronavirus deaths will be in is hard.

 

[Brisan123]

Brown rice for us.

I cant get my hands on the kilo box of Uncle Bens brown rice for love nor money
Only the boil in the bag stuff
2 portions per bag my arse

 

[Brisan123]

The axis of evil.

Brown rice and lasagne.

What a time to be alive.

Brown rice on doctors orders

 

[roydo]

Brown rice on doctors orders

That right? Whats the issue with normal rice?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I cant get my hands on the kilo box of Uncle Bens brown rice for love nor money
Only the boil in the bag stuff
2 portions per bag my arse

Only works if it's for 2 stick people mate.

 

[Brisan123]

That right? Whats the issue with normal rice?

More fibre in brown rice
White rice has other unhealthy stuff in it compared to brown
Something to do with bad cholesterol