Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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tsubaki said:
pete if you are saying "well, you could find staff in Australia" then you are admitting there aren't sufficient staff here
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I just pushed it to the extreme to show the futility of saying something can’t be done. I’m pretty sure that out of the half million or so doctors and nurses we have in the NHS that we would staff the new overspill hospitals.....
 
LinekersLegs said:
Good article summarizing today’s trial results

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Real confusion around the trials for Remdesivir. A week ago the WHO ' leaked ' a report saying
the Chinese trial had failed. Patients had not recovered, the virus had not diminished and some had suffered
side effects. Gilead, the pharma, producers of Remdesivir disputed the report, saying not enough patients
were involved in the trial, also late in the stages of disease.

In February, chinese pharma BrightGene claimed to have copied the drug which is said to be available
on the ' black market '.

Shares in Gilead have climbed with the apparent success of their own trial, after falling after the Chinese trial.
Someone is lying, and with the WHO being in the pockets of the chinese....
 
xena said:
Are Brazil publishing all there deaths because seeing as the conditions alot of the population live in it must be hard to self isolate you would think it would be alot higher.Same for India and Sth Africa and a few others.
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Sorry mate, forgot to reply to this.

I very much doubt that Brazil’s figures are an accurate representation as sadly there appears to be a very bad outbreak, at least in some regions.
www.theguardian.com

'Utter disaster': Manaus fills mass graves as Covid-19 hits the Amazon

Emergency measures pile pain on to mourning families as coronavirus tears through the ill-prepared jungle-flanked city
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
LinekersLegs said:
Sorry mate, forgot to reply to this.

I very much doubt that Brazil’s figures are an accurate representation as sadly there appears to be a very bad outbreak, at least in some regions.
www.theguardian.com

'Utter disaster': Manaus fills mass graves as Covid-19 hits the Amazon

Emergency measures pile pain on to mourning families as coronavirus tears through the ill-prepared jungle-flanked city
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Doesnt help that their lunatic president, (you dont have a monopoly I am afraid), when told the death rate reached 5000, he replied, "So what?"
 
Neiler said:
It was really coming into vogue just as i left the UK and funnily the concept followed me around as i traveled the world, it was oft vaunted internationally as the modern contemporary best practice model at the time, until it was discredited. I was lucky enough to work with some of the clinicians laterally who were involved with coming up with the initial concept, like a lot of things in health care what starts out as a clinical concept of positivity can often be manipulated to dictate or justify "clinical decisions" or as means of "balancing the books" or "best use of resources" and things get a bit warped. A health care concept or model is only ever as good as the skills and values of professionals/teams implementing it in my experience.
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I never really understood where they drew the line between Pathway and Euthanasia.

My mum went on pathway. She'd had a stroke and the muscles in her throat wouldn't allow her to swallow. They couldn't force feed her either as she had a hiatus hernia. So she was basically just taking vitamins and fluids intravenously. She was 90 at the time but had been very ill for a number of months The family were offered pathway and we agreed (all six of us which was probably a first). She was removed from the drips the following day and we were told that it would take about 4/5 days before she passed on. Over a week later and she's still going strong. My sister works in the hospital so was spending a lot of time daily with her, and one day when she went into her room one of nurses was holding a lolly ice for her to suck. She's thirsty the nurse says guiltily, not even sinking in that my mum shouldn't even be able to swallow.

So my sister get's the doctor who brings in the speech therapist who declares her throat muscles are working again. So they immediately put her on liquidised foods and she's taken off pathway. Apparently it was a double miracle. Firstly the use of her throat muscles returning, and secondly surviving 9 days without food and water given the state of her health when she went onto pathway. The medical staff were amazed.

It must have been the Irish in her. She's from Naas. :)

After that ordeal though little wonder she only lasted 3 months in the care home.
 
Dharma said:
Real confusion around the trials for Remdesivir. A week ago the WHO ' leaked ' a report saying
the Chinese trial had failed. Patients had not recovered, the virus had not diminished and some had suffered
side effects. Gilead, the pharma, producers of Remdesivir disputed the report, saying not enough patients
were involved in the trial, also late in the stages of disease.

In February, chinese pharma BrightGene claimed to have copied the drug which is said to be available
on the ' black market '.

Shares in Gilead have climbed with the apparent success of their own trial, after falling after the Chinese trial.
Someone is lying, and with the WHO being in the pockets of the chinese....
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The most recent double blind randomized trials that showed some encouraging news for the drug was run by the NIH, so personally I’m going with that until we get more data

NIH clinical trial shows Remdesivir accelerates recovery from advanced COVID-19

Preliminary results indicate that patients who received remdesivir had a 31% faster time to recovery than those who received placebo.
www.nih.gov www.nih.gov
I don’t think you necessarily have to assume that someone is lying - drug trials don’t always measure the same clinical end point, methods or apply to patients in the same condition (severe/mild, different age ranges/co-morbitites/race/sex) etc so direct comparisons aren’t always appropriate.
 
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