Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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I can understand trying to keep the speech a positive one mate, but rather than sound bytes, the stiff upper lip stuff, and the hero we need is back, it should have been more in depth about the stuff you mentioned. Now, there will have been people standing up and applauding furiously after Boris' speech, but it just left me deflated, not hopeful.
I agree with that fully. I said in an earlier post that he needs to follow up on his promise this morning of openness and transparency. I'd like to be in a position to say I'm even hopeful he will. But I just can't see it.
 
That's a difficult one to answer atm tbh. Several pharmaceutical companies are helping research, and not always to different projects from different countries but sometimes the same one, so i simply don't really know.

We aren't really anywhere near that positive situation yet anyway - what would be essential is getting the huge chemical manufacturers involved who could take on such a gigantic task. The huge pharmaceuticals or multinational chemical conglomerates would be the ideal candidates whichever way the licensing and profits were apportioned.

Normally it would take up to ten years to develop and fully test such a vaccine but with some of the really top research teams throughout the world working with slightly different approaches it gives us several shots at an effective one being found and increases our chances of getting there in only a fraction of that scary ten years, perhaps even early 2021 but perhaps more realistically possibly a year to 18 months.

We cannot live this way and survive economically for anything even like that long. It's why, for all the understandable calls of take no chances, a phased and controlled opening of businesses has to take place and is inevitable even if not ideally appropriate until we're clearly on the downward slope.

A vaccine may not be a year to 18 months away it could take a few years. Economic misery and depression will kill millions both metaphorically and actually, virus or no virus. It's not a stupid move to tolerate the virus, but ready to take some measures again to keep it under control. A second phase of infection is almost inevitable anyway whatever measures are taken and some like social distancing, testing, tracing and shielding the vulnerable are here long term.

(I've been in contact with my brother today, who's a consultant in the main hospital for Covid-19 in Newcastle

He said they haven't had anything like the number of Covid 19 cases they've put beds aside for, and really the resources being allocated to this are way beyond demand they're as if planning for a worst possible case scenario. The effect of doing so though is having a hugely and unforseen detrimental effect on both the profile, urgency and efficacy of the treatment for other major life threatening conditions especially - cancer, heart disease and strokes - the emergency is rapidly changing into a non coronavirus one. (outside London, and to a lesser extent the West Midlands, easily the worst hit and notable hot spot)

He thinks the money spent on what could be largely unused Nightingale hospitals could have been far better used in other areas within the NHS - says sometimes the media figures lack context as to how many are affected by different conditions and the consequent risks involved)
Theres a money trail already forming for the vaccine if you look closely at who's funding studies, vaccine experiments etc, unfortunately I think it won't be open sourced based on that.

My cousins husband is a doctor in one of the main hospitals in Belfast it's the same story there too. Cancer deaths will spike especially imo due to people not going to get checked up for it.
 
Numbers are dropping though mate. Perhaps they don't want to mention them until they are significantly lowering?
Yes they are dropping, and the daily number of tests are going up too. Plus new hospitalisations are gong down too which is very encouraging.

But we're still seeing thousands of new cases every day and that isn't good when we are what, 5 weeks into our lockdown. It shows, to me at any rate, that the social distancing measures are not fully working. Also it's far too many to even contemplate contact tracing and we need to get this introduced asap as part of any measures to loosen the lockdown.
 
Yes they are dropping, and the daily number of tests are going up too. Plus new hospitalisations are gong down too which is very encouraging.

But we're still seeing thousands of new cases every day and that isn't good when we are what, 5 weeks into our lockdown. It shows, to me at any rate, that the social distancing measures are not fully working. Also it's far too many to even contemplate contact tracing and we need to get this introduced asap as part of any measures to loosen the lockdown.

i'd love to know how many of the new cases are picked up in hospital?
 
Theres a money trail already forming for the vaccine if you look closely at who's funding studies, vaccine experiments etc, unfortunately I think it won't be open sourced based on that.

My cousins husband is a doctor in one of the main hospitals in Belfast it's the same story there too. Cancer deaths will spike especially imo due to people not going to get checked up for it.
Liver damage too given the amount of booze people will be lashing into them.
 
Theres a money trail already forming for the vaccine if you look closely at who's funding studies, vaccine experiments etc, unfortunately I think it won't be open sourced based on that.

My cousins husband is a doctor in one of the main hospitals in Belfast it's the same story there too. Cancer deaths will spike especially imo due to people not going to get checked up for it.

Small world my brother took a year out (a while ago now) to do a masters degree at Belfast Queens University and worked at the Royal Victoria hospital there for a few years
 
Theres a money trail already forming for the vaccine if you look closely at who's funding studies, vaccine experiments etc, unfortunately I think it won't be open sourced based on that.

My cousins husband is a doctor in one of the main hospitals in Belfast it's the same story there too. Cancer deaths will spike especially imo due to people not going to get checked up for it.

Which is the scary thing isnt it considering how many more folk will die from deadlier forms of illness in the attempt at not catching something that statistically will give you mild symptoms if you are not old or have health conditions.

Out of having Covid-19 or cancer I would take my chances with Covid-19 every day of the week.
 
Has anyone else been affected by the SSP this month in wages?, think it’s been a little unfair for me.

Working in food production Ive have to carry on in work with it being more busier than ever, staying late every day. Last month a member of my household got a temperature and it was in my duty to inform my workplace.

Took a £650 loss in wages because of being forced to self isolate at home for 14 days, to which has resulted in me working 6 days a week now to recoup what I lost.

On top of that there being no restrictions put in place whatsoever apart from sitting apart In the canteen on breaks, people just coming face to face with you as normal.
I am in food production in Dublin
Temp check before you clock in
Allowed come to work in overalls (this was strictly forbidden before )
Handed 2 masks when you start
Social distancing in canten ,split breaks and extra canteens opened .
Don't have to clock out as this is where crowds gather
Disposable gloves
Extra cleaners and you are expected to wipe down surfaces you touch on machines canteens etc
 
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