Beaches are likely better than places indoors but this still seems unwise, guess we’ll know in two weeks
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Im not sure it's that helpful to think about a single peak, so much as a curve based on cause and effect. If people act like there is no need to follow strict social distancing when things are relaxed then there will be a spike and the curve will rise. If people are sensible, then hopefully it will go on a downward trend.
I saw something similar about use of CPAP vs BiPAP vs ventilators. BPAP seemed to be proving more effective although the results seemed to be limited to a small number of patients with similar symptoms
ForeverBlue92
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Feel sorry for the folk who've already had the virus and are stuck in lockdown - poor buggers wasting away valuable weeks of potential immunity lol
roydo
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Thats the mad thing isnt it? We could all be sat here doing eff all and be absolutely fine!
Hate to say it but this week/weekend is the first time I've really seen people ignoring the measures. And I don't mean getting two walks in a day.
When I went out on a run earlier it was quiet around me, but my mate has been on a bike ride said it was really busy down near the main lake nearby. Now you can't park there as it's blocked off but he said the police were having to move people and there were a few idiots having BBQs - it'll be lads my age who don't ever and have never done what they were asked to. I've mentioned before but they'll always be prats and even if we were fully locked inside they wouldn't heed the rules anyway.
At this stage, it shouldn't have the negative impact it would have done this time 4-5 weeks ago, as we look to have peaked and the infection rate in the community is under control (relatively speaking) but it's infuriating.
If we get locked indoors just as my new bike comes some chavs are getting it once this is over.
When I went out on a run earlier it was quiet around me, but my mate has been on a bike ride said it was really busy down near the main lake nearby. Now you can't park there as it's blocked off but he said the police were having to move people and there were a few idiots having BBQs - it'll be lads my age who don't ever and have never done what they were asked to. I've mentioned before but they'll always be prats and even if we were fully locked inside they wouldn't heed the rules anyway.
At this stage, it shouldn't have the negative impact it would have done this time 4-5 weeks ago, as we look to have peaked and the infection rate in the community is under control (relatively speaking) but it's infuriating.
If we get locked indoors just as my new bike comes some chavs are getting it once this is over.
roydo
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Yeah, me too. It wasnt "busy" as in a normal sunny Saturday, but it was deffo busier.
We've been at 650+ daily deaths longer than both Spain and Italy were, the numbers are slowly decreasing but it hints at a devastating final tally for the UK
Yeh at the start of the week the roads were definitely busier when I was on my bike, but I do think the time I was going out (1-3pm) and going through a village where there's only one supermarket etc may have played a part there. The evenings have been quiet still.
Thursday and Friday were quieter though.
I haven't been anywhere that would be busy today because I knew there'd just be loads of people. Best not adding to that.
Just can't fathom what the people in cars are playing at. There's nowhere to go. Why bother?
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Is lockdown over, everyone is out and about again and pretty much everyone I know is back at work aswell,
No, it’s not. How d’ya feel about the Dutch league being declared null and void?
yer ma back in work huh, at least you get the run of the basement now
All good mate, we latched early on to the South Korean model and implemented it as much as we could given we were relatively unprepared and our health service wouldn't be one of the greatest, just about muster, similar to the NHS in alot of ways as really we would have graduated from your model. Were we did well was in the identifying the community cases, contact tracing and clusters early - that stopped the exponential growth and we implemented social distancing a couple of weeks before our lock down, lock down just supported these methods. We dropped the ball on nursing homes to our shame both for our older people and the staff there, we have been really trying to remedy that. We did 20k tests in our nursing homes last week patients and staff, redeployed staff there and gave priority of PPE, our numbers there are shameful though.
To be honest and i would have no particular affiliation, our government has done well, our leader is a GP and while hes an opportunist, hes fundamentally decent and clever enough to know when he needs to be a soundbite and let the experts deal with this. Thats whats happened in the end, our Chief Medical Officer has become a minor celebrity and hero for the country. Hes been front line and center forming a tandem of science with our politicians and they have blended well but also been very clear. The politicians have been led by the scientists genuinely here, to the ire of some as they "haven't been elected" - you can never win.
We do have a two tier insurance system in normal circumstances, during this though the government did a deal with private hospitals, consultants and health insurance companies to make themselves available to the state throughout this crisis. Essentially we have nationalized our health service temporarily during this crisis. The health insurance companies have rebated those playing private polices 50% of their premiums as a result. So our model now has been nationalized like the NHS for the duration of the crisis.
I wouldn't be clapping ourselves on the back to much, we're a smaller country and we did well to be quick of the mark, had a strategy early, stuck to it and dealt with it. But we've dropped the ball with our older people to our shame. Like i said its the end of the beginning maybe, so a long way to go in this. Was announced tonight we will lift some restrictions after next weekend, small steps to start. We've done ok so far for me, not as well as some but better then a lot.
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That sounds like music to my ears. What we would have done for such leadership over here.
Also good to see the health system was adapted for the benefit of the nation.
As you say, the serious mistake in the approach seems to have been the care homes.
Funny thing is we had an election in January and he and his party got the least of the popular vote of the big three parties (gives you a sense of how prepared we were for this). We were in the process of forming a new government when this hit and still are really. But it will wait until this is in hand i think or as much as it can be. Looks like we will have two of the biggest parties joining together for the first time ever with rolling leaders. Like if Labor and The Tories ever went into coalition - the idea is to keep Sinn Fein out of power.
It was a great effort and i was pleasantly surprised, i think Europe and the rise of the stimulus package after this has enabled us to do some innovative things like this and be able to fund it going forward. The private hospitals, consultants and insurance companies wont be doing it for free, but helps the national effort so fair play.
You know my feelings on our older people, thankfully we are trying to remedy now but much damage has been done. Id support an inquiry into in after this to be honest, unacceptable mistakes were made.
It was a great effort and i was pleasantly surprised, i think Europe and the rise of the stimulus package after this has enabled us to do some innovative things like this and be able to fund it going forward. The private hospitals, consultants and insurance companies wont be doing it for free, but helps the national effort so fair play.
You know my feelings on our older people, thankfully we are trying to remedy now but much damage has been done. Id support an inquiry into in after this to be honest, unacceptable mistakes were made.
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