Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[navidson]

Is it a really stupid question to wonder how on earth so many are getting this virus in the first place, after weeks of lock down?

This is the thing puzzling me - Are there people dying that have contracted the virus post lockdown?!

 

[LinekersLegs]

What’s he having done legs, I had a triple bypass if he or you want to know what happens or indeed how to recover....

His mitral valve needs repair/replacement and he has 3 blocked arteries that need stents/bypass - hopefully going in next week for tests to determine exactly what procedures they are going to do.

Thanks for offer, will admit to being a tad worried especially as I can’t be with them due to fears I catch the virus on the trip there, can you pm me so we don’t derail the thread?

 

[Amw79]

I can assure you it's not down at all.
We just can't be arsed reporting most of it anymore because it doesn't get investigated unless violence is used usually. Your on hold to 101 for 45 mins easy.
Even during social distancing etc this week our store has had loads of theft / attempted theft.
This will only get worse once people's money starts running out soon too.

So reported crime is down then. You said it yourself. This is a ringing endorsement for the management of social order by the Tories.

(This is sarcasm. They’re utter ghouls)

 

[mahermi1]

There will be a massive bill for the lockdown, but that’s what the media and the noisemakers were demanding we do. So now we are where we are. We will recover quite quickly I believe, the furloughing and grants were strokes of genius tbh, but obviously the borrowing will have to be paid back. Personally I believe that most businesses are confident and it’s shown that the difficult early days of Brexit will be a walk in the park by comparison. I don’t think there will be mass or even Large scale unemployment as every business will be wanting to get back up to speed quickly. There will be tax hikes but Boris is no idiot, it will be targeted on those that can afford it.....

The furloughing and the grants were a good idea, probably one of the few the government have got right. But what was the alternative to that, companies going bust, mass redundancies, paid for... by the government.
More importantly, why are the deaths not going down after so long in lockdown, seriously, have I missed something ?

 

[davek]

She is telling the country what is going on regarding crime and law and order. Being the Home Secretary that’s really part of her job.....

It's called defection...from the crime of the century she and her fellow sumbags have carried out.

 

[roydo]

It's called defection...from the crime of the century she and her fellow sumbags have carried out.

Made in China.

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Please don’t confuse Dave with genuine first hand experience of living in the country he’s referring to.

Couple of cases in point here.... 4 weeks ago the flemish government told us that everybody who was temporarily unemployed would get a €200 tax free payment towards utility bills at the end of April. Yesterday they put out a press release saying it was postponed until "later"... we will never see that money.

Front of today's paper tells me on May 4th you can go outside with 2 friends or family members... you cant move for families of 5 on bikes and groups of 3 or 4 other cyclists on the road.

 

[duncs pigeon]

It's not that I want to defend this shambolic government, but I suspect that as soon as it's announced that the lockdown will be eased in X number of days, many people will not wait for the target date but will try to resume "normal life" asap.

100% this.

 

[davek]

We’re doing ok mate, worse then some better then most thankfully. We’re about a week or two ahead of the UK of when we put restrictions in.

We’re down to R0 .5 from 4.5-5 before lockdown. Which is positive as limited as the data might be - I personally think your R0 is only as good as your testing. Personally I think we have far more cases then our baseline figures or our R0 would suggest.

On the ground things have settled in the health service, we were being stretched two - three weeks ago and I was getting worried, PPE was stretched, beds were filling quickly and my team were gong down with the virus or had to self isolate. It has settled since, so I’m hoping work wise we are beyond our peak. We still have patients coming in, but it doesn’t look like we will be swamped.

We put in testing and contact testing in early and have teams out in the community, identifying cases, contacts and clusters, we could do more but it’s definitely crucial. I want to see the UK do this now. We just secured a deal to ramp up our testing to 100k a week for technology and necessary chemicals, not insignifcant for a county of under 5 mill that could be a game changer for us. Overall in a general sense the trend is New cases going up (more testing) and in general RIP numbers falling, but you’d be keeping a close eye on them.

The natives in my opinion have been getting bolder, nothing on the roads for weeks but last night driving home from work may as well not have been of lock down, but in general we’ve done good bar a few bulbs. If not starting to get a little over confident and cocky.

The horror over here has been the impact in nursing homes and health care staff well over 60% of our deaths have been in nursing homes and 200 of our 300 clusters ( over 3 confirmed linked cases ) in the community are there, horrible but we have acted fast at throwing resources at it in the last few weeks, weve been late though to our shame. Else wise over 40% of positive cases have been Heath care workers, very, very high and something we need to look at. A lot of that was not identifying nursing homes for PPE.

In the context of horror around the world we’ve done alright, I suspect we will start to open up incrementally after the May weekend, although I’ve be cautious. for that to work we need to do more on our infrastructure in testing and contact tracing for bigger numbers. The goal is to to keep our R0 under 1, anything over you should be locking down again really.

We’re in the same soup as everyone else, but overall we’re doing well compartively with everyone whose got through this well so far. End of the beginning mind,

Thanks for that comprehensive report.

It sounds to me like Ireland's governing class have dealt pretty efficiently with this. Early lockdown; testing and tracing in the community - and you'll get the benefit of that soon in terms of easing down the lockdown measures.

I know Ireland have a health insurance system, but it looks like it's done better than the UK given that the positive cases / death ratio for Ireland is 18:1 and the UK is 7:1.

 

[davek]

Made in China.

It's a global pandemic. Some nations took it seriously, prepared well, shut down early, went after the virus...and some nations had Boris Johnson and the Tories.

 

[roydo]

It's a global pandemic. Some nations took it seriously, prepared well, shut down early, went after the virus...and some nations had Boris Johnson and the Tories.

Tis. Wouldnt be without China though.

Great bunch of lads.

 

[davek]

Tis. Wouldnt be without China though.

Great bunch of lads.

I hope they get some testing kits to us. And PPE.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Lockdown over in Prague. But they're wearing masks so it's okay.

 

[LinekersLegs]