Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Nymzee]

Yet it was the logic of it that made the police response heavy handed you equally strange creature.

Anyway the government has now confirmed that I was right and you were wrong so sniff it, as one of our esteemed fellow posters likes to say

Yeh you go drive to walk. Still makes perfect sense.

 

[Agent Blue]

Unfortunately he won the biggest election win since 2005, so to suggest he should be replaced and everyone thought he wasn't fit to govern, is completely ridiculous. Once this is over then people will decide on the government's performance and if they don't think it was good enough then he'll lose the next election - that's how it works.

I doubt many people are back in work less than 2 weeks from being in ICU. But sure why let that get in the way of conspiracy theories.

You make it sound like he was gravely ill.
He was never on a ventilator and received oxygen for a few days and then released, that was his get out of jail free card right there. Yours sounds like the conspiracy theory by dumbing down

 

[ToffeeTim]

You make it sound like he was gravely ill.
He was never on a ventilator and received oxygen for a few days and then released, that was his get out of jail free card right there. Yours sounds like the conspiracy theory by dumbing down

So it's a conspiracy theory to believe someone who was admitted to intensive care was very sick?

OK

 

[BlueToff]

Did you have some earnings in the qualifying period like?

My earnings (which I have declared as I had to) for the period between 20th March and 19th April were £365.

I didn't want to lie and say I'd earned nothing, but they've deducted £229 off the standard allowance for that. So they expect someone to be able to live off £545 a month?

It just about pays my bills.

I get paid a month behind so I am due a half-decent amount next week (total work in March) albeit it's probably half of my average monthly earnings over the last year. But going forward into the next few months I'm obviously not due much at all as I'm hitting one-two shifts a week if I'm lucky. Have got some other freelance work lined up but that's for next week, plus not even sure what the pay is yet.

I know people are in a worse position than me but Jesus Christ, it's disgusting.

 

[Tea_drinker]

So it's a conspiracy theory to believe someone who was admitted to intensive care was very sick?

OK

I believe he may have had a nervous breakdown. If he did have the virus though from what ive read it takes weeks, even months for someone to fully recover mobility and lung function. Therefore this useless toff isnt gonna be up to the job for ages and needs to fess up and resign.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

So it's a conspiracy theory to believe someone who was admitted to intensive care was very sick?

OK

He was never sick, he was just hiding and all the doctors and nurses were from Holby City.

 

[BlueToff]

He was never sick, he was just hiding and all the doctors and nurses were from Holby City.

Tbf, the equipment might have been

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Tbf, the equipment might have been

I wonder if they'll want that equipment back...

 

[JimmyJeffers]

My earnings (which I have declared as I had to) for the period between 20th March and 19th April were £365.

I didn't want to lie and say I'd earned nothing, but they've deducted £229 off the standard allowance for that. So they expect someone to be able to live off £545 a month?

It just about pays my bills.

I get paid a month behind so I am due a half-decent amount next week (total work in March) albeit it's probably half of my average monthly earnings over the last year. But going forward into the next few months I'm obviously not due much at all as I'm hitting one-two shifts a week if I'm lucky. Have got some other freelance work lined up but that's for next week, plus not even sure what the pay is yet.

I know people are in a worse position than me but Jesus Christ, it's disgusting.

Yeah agree. I’m guessing you didn’t take the advance loan like most people as you’d be getting even less.
The problem has been that the discussion on benefits has become focussed on ‘benefit scroungers’ to make them an easy target for cuts and vilification. Instead the focus should be that they are a primarily a safety net for exactly these sorts of situations.
A lot of people have had their eyes opened by being put into a similar situation as yourself. Be interesting to see if any changes in public perception come of it.
I would say it’s very difficult to keep and maintain a vehicle if your sole income is universal credit and if you’re living alone you’re in a fair amount of trouble.

 

[Eggs]

....my daughter still hasn’t got a protective mask that has passed a ‘fit test’. She was talking to another young surgeon who has recovered from the virus and he was saying it was a dreadful experience, seemingly worst of a nigh.

Some patients seem to be getting better but then deteriorate extremely quickly and die. Delirium is a common factor, an awful illness to go through.

 

[Joey66]

News just broke out all the M motorway roads particularly down south more traffic on them early am today - a guess is the self employed are skint and are going back to work ....?
Then a USA guy on Facebook preach Covid 19 is a hoax and how he was persuading other people to go about their daily lives normally has just died.........of Covid 19...

 

[Martin Alvito]

Trial results so far have been mixed -- about equal between benefit and no benefit.
None of those trials have been a well designed trial, but that happens at this stage. There are several good trials underway.

The analysis I posted was a retrospective review so even lower level of evidence, but does tell professionals to pump the breaks on use until we get better data as there may actually be harm.

I wouldn't be inclined to draw that conclusion on the basis of a single outlier study, but I do recognize that the profession has a specific code that it lives by and that you are much better positioned than I to know what the literature says.

What I don't really understand is why this thing has resulted in such an uprising in nationalism. Germany had a test developed as early as January, yet many other nations, including Britain and the US, decided to develop their own test instead. While there is an element of logic to that so that you avoid buying dodgy stuff, as the Spanish did with the test from Bioeasy, it does obviously add a delay to proceedings.

Testing capability is a matter of national security right now. Depending on another nation is unreliable in that:

a) if things get really bad, you almost certainly will get cut off in favor of their needs
b) you are likely going to end up buying whatever didn't pass their QA.

Now, licensing someone else's proven design is entirely different from a national security perspective. The problem is that private companies don't want to do it due to the profit motive. There are ways for the government to cure that, but they are bad politics (especially for, say, Tory and Republican governments).

 

[Agent Blue]

So it's a conspiracy theory to believe someone who was admitted to intensive care was very sick?

OK

But he wasn't very sick, he used that and is still using it as an opportunity not to have his face asscociated with the balls up that is unfolding in front of our eyes and escape scrutiny........again.
The last time he appeared in public that I can remember was in the fridge when he took that guys phone off him and put it in his pocket when shown pictures of the kid sleeping on a hospital floor.
He's a bullshitter mate, always has been and now it's starting to show.

 

[BlueToff]

Yeah agree. I’m guessing you didn’t take the advance loan like most people as you’d be getting even less.
The problem has been that the discussion on benefits has become focussed on ‘benefit scroungers’ to make them an easy target for cuts and vilification. Instead the focus should be that they are a primarily a safety net for exactly these sorts of situations.
A lot of people have had their eyes opened by being put into a similar situation as yourself. Be interesting to see if any changes in public perception come of it.
I would say it’s very difficult to keep and maintain a vehicle if your sole income is universal credit and if you’re living alone in you’re in a fair amount of trouble.

Yeh, I got asked if I wanted to but I said no.

My thinking being, there'd be people who need it more than me (like I said, I get paid a month behind anyway) and I could manage until then.

I can still manage, but I'm going to be scraping. I'm trying my best to find work but it's like a needle in a haystack tbh - and I'm not limiting myself to sports reporting, it's doing any writing/copy editing work I can. I'm not getting a penny from the SEISS either as I don't qualify for it. So UC is my only hope for the next few months.

And yeah I agree on the eyes opened bit. I'd never needed it before. Frankly never thought I'd need it. Worked solidly since I was 16 in a variety of jobs and always paid my way. Not saying people who need UC don't do that - I know that's not the case - but the absolute shambles it is is obviously something I wasn't fully aware of.

 

[davek]

But he wasn't very sick, he used that and is still using it as an opportunity not to have his face asscociated with the balls up that is unfolding in front of our eyes and escape scrutiny........again.
The last time he appeared in public that I can remember was in the fridge when he took that guys phone off him and put it in his pocket when shown pictures of the kid sleeping on a hospital floor.
He's a bullshitter mate, always has been and now it's starting to show.

Utter scum he is.

Shame on anyone who voted for him...especially if they still support him after this national disaster.