Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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It is not expensive to eat healthily.

To be fair, I've been a chef for 40 years, have been involved in public procurement policy forums, healthy eating campaigns, accredited with god knows what in sustainability, environmental and ISO directives and I'm telling you it is for the larger part of society. It isn't finance alone.
What is your budget, for how many people, per week?
 
I'd say even that's an over-simplification tbh. Given the huge pressure staff are under, I'm almost certain there will be medical mistakes made during this process, but that hardly makes those involved Harold Shipman. Fear of making mistakes, or even appearing to make them, usually results in people manipulating data or covering them up, which is hardly what we want.
Even in the Harold Shipman case somebody higher up the line should have been brought to rights on it. How could that number go unnoticed
 
I honestly don’t know. I think Hancock was a pillock for saying he wanted 100,000 tests per day, they should have been open and said they’ve changed strategy on the herd immunity, they should have said it has caught them all out, but other than that I cannot remember any ‘lies’......

ok so the lie about herd immunity you don’t think was an absolute whopper then ? It was huge and they’ve simply denied it . Enough tests for everyone is the care industry who wants one , patently untrue . The science is unclear on masks , you believe that ? Today they’ve doctored (pardon the pun ) the tweets of the Lancet editor to support their position that ‘it came from nowhere ‘ . You call the him a pillock for wanting the 100,000 tests they’ve continually said we’ll reach it , we won’t pete obviously .

I could probably go on like but I’m enjoying some sun . They’re lying and they think we’re stupid . I accept I’m not the brightest but I don’t believe your thick don’t be so tribal, you wouldn’t stand this off a labour government and neither would I frankly .
 
I think the big thing to come out of this is that the NHS has been treated as an infallible organisation for far too long. Whenever there are problems with it, there seems to be a 'plaster' of increased investment attached and it's sent on its merry way towards the next point a plaster is needed. Reading that it seems a lot of problems have arisen from a societal inability to be truly critical of the way in which the NHS is actually run, so bad practice has been allowed to run rampant for decades, which has brought us to the situation we are at today.

There's also the question as to how society has screwed over the NHS. There's rising health costs because people are, on the whole, incapable of looking after themselves. The rise in Type 2 Diabetes in this country exemplifies that, especially with the estimate that 50% of cases could be either prevented or delayed. Society hasn't helped in that regard and there's been plenty of excuses made for people who, in reality, are taking the piss then expecting the NHS to look after them. It would be very interesting reading after this as to how many deaths could have been avoided if underlying conditions weren't there.

There should be a huge organisational and societal change in the wake of this, but in reality any critique will be deflected by using the frontline staff as a shield.
Its a political bemouth only second to Westminster, middle and upper management is rampant with nepotism and cronyism.
 
The fault of capitalism in all this is the labelling of foods a ‘premium healthy’. The biggest link to diabetes is the link to overconsumption of complex Carbohydrates, not over eating (or drinking) is the way to reduce it. Again loads of case studies that show people can actually spend relatively small amounts if they know how or what to cook, the problem is that it’s becoming a forgotten skill.

The kids I work with seem to do nothing but bake cakes in their Food Technology lessons, little development of understanding of food or preparing regular meals, so again as a society we’re just making a rod for our own backs.

There are too numerous threads to capitalist practice, mainly competition as a driver, to pick up there.
Kids in my school very rarely bake cakes in food tech, so maybe that's a fad/ curriculum thing.
The lack of adaptability towards cooking is partly parental, due to cost, the use of fast foods, ready meals, compounded by longer working hours or cost. Which leads to carbs and the profit of foods based on them. If you're skint it's easier to fill a child with pasta and keep costs down than do a meal from scratch.
As for labelling, I mentioned in another reply I was part of a collective brought by the last labour government tasked with pushing healthier foods, primarily to public sector procurement but to be rolled out nationally afterwards. Part of this was to do with labelling, under the Codex Alimentarius of the EU, and it was a massive battle from the get go, industry obfuscated straight away because they didn't want the public to be informed. It's still completely skewed.
The EU worked for the benefit of the industry on that completely.
Anyway after almost a year and a hefty few million lashed at it, the tories got in and kicked it into the long grass and made 'some reccomendations' but never put it into policy in any way, shape or form.
 
It is not expensive to eat healthily.
Yes it is. There is great deal of nutritional difference in value chicken to the top of the range chicken that any super market sell, this is reflected in prices right across all products and ranges. What your trying to convey is eating healthier. Most people can make chicken nuggets from a chicken breast, however, the nutrition values won't differ because it's been made at home value is less nutritional and top of the range is more nutritious Eating healthy cost money.
 
Yes it is. There is great deal of nutritional difference in value chicken to the top of the range chicken that any super market sell, this is reflected in prices right across all products and ranges. What your trying to convey is eating healthier. Most people can make chicken nuggets from a chicken breast, however, the nutrition values won't differ because it's been made at home value is less nutritional and top of the range is more nutritious Eating healthy cost money.

Vegetables are pretty cheap.
 
I honestly don’t know. I think Hancock was a pillock for saying he wanted 100,000 tests per day, they should have been open and said they’ve changed strategy on the herd immunity, they should have said it has caught them all out, but other than that I cannot remember any ‘lies’......
But they also need to be more transparent , specific and honest about timelines.etc. Don't make false promises on timings. Give more detail on why they are struggling in certain areas. Basically be more open and detailed in their briefings.

Wee cranky has got her briefings pretty much right. There's very little difference in the way both countries have handled this crisis but the UK govt is getting tons more grief than Scotland.

And for Gods sake why can't they ever apologise when they do get something badly wrong. An apology will go a long way with a lot of people
 
But they also need to be more transparent , specific and honest about timelines.etc. Don't make false promises on timings. Give more detail on why they are struggling in certain areas. Basically be more open and detailed in their briefings.

Wee cranky has got her briefings pretty much right. There's very little difference in the way both countries have handled this crisis but the UK govt is getting tons more grief than Scotland.

And for Gods sake why can't they ever apologise when they do get something badly wrong. An apology will go a long way with a lot of people

That's the thing for me, I would have a bit more respect for a politician if they just held their hands up now and again.
 
Yes it is. There is great deal of nutritional difference in value chicken to the top of the range chicken that any super market sell, this is reflected in prices right across all products and ranges. What your trying to convey is eating healthier. Most people can make chicken nuggets from a chicken breast, however, the nutrition values won't differ because it's been made at home value is less nutritional and top of the range is more nutritious Eating healthy cost money.

No it isn't. People are just not inclined to spend the time cooking.

I used to do shopping in Aldi for my partner and I and spent about £35 for a week's worth of food. No ready meal crap, pizzas. Fresh meat, fruit and vegetables. Frozen veg where applicable as the nutritional content is often higher than fresh.

You can make a chickpea and sweet potato curry that will feed two people for two nights for about £3.50.

A free range whole chicken from Aldi is £3.15, has enough meat for an evening meal with salad and potatoes, and some for sandwiches the next day.

Ham, cheese, salad and bread for sandwiches for four days is about £6.50, less even.

That's three evening meals and five days of lunches for £13.
 
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He‘s a big beast. Surrounded by pygmies you need big beasts....
Good grief. Excuse and change position. Excuse and change position.

I suspect by the end of this, you'll have written a Telegraph comment peice titled 'Coronavirus: Why I'll carry on eating bats! Not eating bats is exactly what the left wants you to do'.
 
Isn't that because the weekend deaths are now only just added to the total?
Yes. It was still lower than I expected it to be because the previous 2 days had seen such a big reduction. Fingers crossed the downward trend continues.

I was speaking to my neighbour earlier and her daughter is a nurse.She was saying that the numbers being treated for CV-19 at the Royal Cornwall Hospital (by far the larger of the 2 NHS Trusts down here) is down to 20 which is great news.

We haven't been as badly hit down here as other areas but if they are seeing a similar trend then I think we have turned the corner
 
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