Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Jebus_lives]

So youre saying Taiwan never approached WHO ?

I mean its not hard to see which countries believed China and suffered and are now paying them hundreds of millions a week for medical supplies...

And those that didnt believe them and are relatively unscathed by comparison...for now.


Im saying YOU and the General Public have NO IDEA how things are going in relation to sucessful or unsuccessful measures.

Unless you have a super computer sent from the future which can compare everything using self learning A.I.

Its easy to blame but impossible to know what does and doesnt work.

For all we know there may be no way to stop 100% of the world being infected before a vaccine.

No. I'm saying your interpretation of what is a complex dynamic involving the WHO, Taiwan and China is simplistic.

And I reckon, given I attend daily national meetings about Covid-19 in the NHS and across multiple agencies, I've got a pretty decent idea about what should, what is and what isn't happening in response.

 

[LinekersLegs]

On what specific thing do you think the Government were proactive or well prepared for:

Testing, testing, testing
Contact tracing
Ventilators
PPE
Support for frontline staff
Communication of clear messages

I know, I suspect a lot better than most, how hard scaling up or creating new services can be in the NHS and I also know how difficult managing any major incident, let alone something as devastating as a pandemic can be, but I've yet to see anything from the Government that hasn't looked reactive or pressured.

Now you might blame China and/or the WHO ( they make a good target: foreign Government and sprawling complex organisation) and they need to take their share of the blame, but much like preparations for Brexit, the Government have been left wanting and their failings are even more amplified now.

The Prime Minister and significant numbers of the response team getting it is pretty damning all by itself!

 

[tsubaki]

Simple question and you can only answer Yes or No.

If the ideology of the Chinese government was to the extreme right, rather than to the extreme left would you still defend them with equal vigour ?

TBF its very hard to think of one Chinese government policy that is of the "extreme left".

 

[Shevin Keedy]

And I reckon, given I attend daily national meetings about Covid-19 in the NHS and across multiple agencies, I've got a pretty decent idea about what should, what is and what isn't happening in response.

Come on now you cannot play that card, we are all qualified internet nobodies, we are all equal. All in this together.

 

[LinekersLegs]

So youre saying Taiwan never approached WHO ?

I mean its not hard to see which countries believed China and suffered and are now paying them hundreds of millions a week for medical supplies...

And those that didnt believe them and are relatively unscathed by comparison...for now.


Im saying YOU and the General Public have NO IDEA how things are going in relation to sucessful or unsuccessful measures.

Unless you have a super computer sent from the future which can compare everything using self learning A.I.

Its easy to blame but impossible to know what does and doesnt work.

For all we know there may be no way to stop 100% of the world being infected before a vaccine.

On a grand scale no, but it is still easy to tell whether you or your loved ones are seriously ill/dead which is a pretty key metric for most of us.

The vaccine isn’t the only possible medical treatment either, there could well be antivirals that make the disease less unpleasant/fatal.

Sweden and Norway might end up with the exact same % of coronavirus fatalities over the course of say two years but the Norwegian ones will still have had more time with their loved ones.

 

[Death]

The pubs will be open by August surely

 

[jamieni]

The pubs will be open by August surely

All depends on the “5 tests” the govt has set out I guess.

 

[Tea_drinker]

I get the feeling that public opinion is starting to turn against the tories now. Their lack of preparedness and planning is starting to show.

 

[Neiler]

Also worth noting that we had a pandemic response plan and preparations that were apparently the envy of the world, this started to go downhill around 2010 and continued to decline in the last decade

“The interesting thing for me is, I’ve worked with Singapore in 2003 and 2009 and basically they copied the UK pandemic preparedness plan. But the difference is they actually implemented it.”

- Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious diseases at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

 

[Walken]

“The interesting thing for me is, I’ve worked with Singapore in 2003 and 2009 and basically they copied the UK pandemic preparedness plan. But the difference is they actually implemented it.”

- Martin Hibberd, professor of emerging infectious diseases at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine.

That is so tragic to read, this is what actually investing in your people and country means and we actually used to do it before these vultures got in a decade ago

 

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Im surprised no one has pointed out the correlation between Alcohol, Sweatpants, The Internet and Toilet Roll.

 

[Neiler]

That is so tragic to read, this is what actually investing in your people and country means and we actually used to do it before these vultures got in a decade ago

The world's gold standard apparently.

 

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[davmaher]

Family opposite me, Mum and two teenagers. Mum and Dad are separated, so Dad lives elsewhere. He turned up yesterday afternoon and took one of the teenagers out for a driving lesson, gone about an hour. Came back and he then drove away. Is this acceptable? Should we be reporting incidents like this? Hoping the experts on here can advise.

Have you thought about walking over the road and speaking to them about it? You could explain why the father taking one of the teenagers out in a car for an hour made you feel that you and other people were put at unacceptable risk.

 

[LinekersLegs]