Dont know where thats from but that seems like utter bull to me frandel.
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Dont know where thats from but that seems like utter bull to me frandel.
Minimeister
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The criteria for a Test here is within the first 3 days of a person reporting symptoms. That sounds easy but it's not. When you have to wait for reports to know who's called in and why, then ring them up and get them in either that day or the next.
Fair enough, that seems strange to me.
Where is that from?
Tea_drinker
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Who are these 100,000 people they are aiming to test (they wont) everyday if it's so difficult to get them done?
Aye...does to me.
It was on one of the media sites , sent to me by a mate.
Wildy optomistic.
Will be really fascinating to see if they do antibody testing of same town at some point. Don’t know if the lower % of infections for those under 50 is a statistical quirk due to the lower numbers sampled or something else
Murderous scum is probably a little over the top, but there incompetence will have been the reason that many thousands will end up in coffins long before there time.
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I think the gist of the article was that if say 10 people die in a care home with traces of the virus / antibodies in their system then they are listed as having died of COVID when in reality the virus may not have played a part in the death and a % of them could have been asymptomatic for example but we'll never know.
The article @LinekersLegs shown about hospitals having no heart attack patients etc in ties up with A&E's across the country being empty. Outside of the usual drunken fisticuffs - where are all the folk with the emergency illnesses / strokes / heart attacks?
If they die of a stroke at home and test positive for the virus - was it the virus that killed them or the stroke and they were asymptomatic/ only had mild symptoms. Like if you died of a heart attack but had an infection you wouldn't list an infection as being the cause but we appear to be doing so with COVID-19.
No doubt its killing alot of people and seems to be a lottery when some 90+ year olds are battling it whilst others in their 30's and healthy are dying but I think every statistic right now doesnt tell the full story - be it the infected numbers and the deaths both over and under stating.
Found it....Daily Fail.
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From the BBC website.
The death total is based on having the virus not dying from it.
Now there is no information on to what extent the numbers change from cause of death to simply infected. For example how many people end up in hospital with something else and simply catch the virus before death? Or catch and succumb to the virus at the point where they may or may not recover?
There's usually on average 1300 deaths a day in the UK. So average 9100? Deaths a week on varying reasons. I'm curious to know how much that has increased to reflect the virus effects.
Point is I guess, it's hard to really deduce anything right now because there isn't that information out there. We get a number every day yet they number could be 2 weeks worth of reports that so happened to be submitted the day before. Nothing is accurate right now, let alone the infection rates.
Although they are dropping , which is a promising sign. The deaths can still be high but the infection rates ARE dropping. So who knows where we will be in 3 weeks
Ah, shame - Was hoping it was from an actual publication
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How barbers are not key workers I'll never know.
Absolutely gagging for a haircut dont think I'll last until middle of May.
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With respect mate, although you're right to some extent that the stats don't tell the full story, and we won't know the full story for some time, I think you're conciously or subconciously trying to convince yourself that things aren't as bad as what the headlines suggest.
A lot of people are currently dying that, if they hadn't contracted COVID-19, would still be pottering about for a good few years yet. There will come a time when the number of people dying as a result of the lockdown, as opposed to dying as a result of COVID means it'll probably be "better" ( less worse really ) to accept a certain amount of COVID related deaths, but we're currently nowhere near that point.
It's not really, a real world example might go something like ( apologies for making it close to home, but it helps illustrate the point )
Uncle Billy is overweight and on medication to control his hypertension.
He contracts COVID-19 and, partly as a result of his pre-existing conditions sadly passes away.
If he hadn't contracted COVID-19, he'd still be alive. With apologies to the medics on here, because I don't know exactly how this works, but a chain of events resulting in Uncle Billy's death was started by COVID-19, so his death certificate might include, as causes of death :-
- Pneumonia, brought on by
- A COVID-19 infection
- Excerberated by a pre-existing hypertensive condition
Do it yourself...I have.
Its not like anyone's gonna see it now is it.
Theres plenty of time to put it right ...no ?
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