Jamo Martinez
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Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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I don’t disagree with you but I think the reality of this situation (and this is just my opinion) is that the original ‘plan’ had to be chucked out the window as we started to know more about the virus.
Personally I think it’s a medium term strategy that’s required. The Spanish Flu was around for about 3 years.
Based on current evidence, I'm not so sure.
Sweden's 'light touch' approach failing.
Anger in Sweden as elderly pay price for coronavirus strategy
Staff with no masks or sanitiser fear for residents as hundreds die in care homeswww.theguardian.com
Yet their mortality rate is no worse than anywhere else in Europe (according to official WHO stats).
More to do with a better healthcare and lower population, probably, but still. If they can come out of this with a lower mortality rate than countries which have gone into massive lockdowns then they'll treat it as a success.
Right-leaning media are lauding Sweden and left-leaning criticising them, in general. It's probably just a wait and see situation.
Jamo Martinez
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Christ! I've found myself applauding Piers Morgan recently. Strange days indeed.
Wouldnt agree with you there mate, their mortality rate is horrific. They have less reported infections than Ireland and three times the mortality rate, same goes for other countries reporting cases of 13-14k in comparison. Its woeful. I think they haven't surged yet either, just my opinion mind.
You suspect if the challenge is natural herd immunity, they arent putting to much effort into testing either so the infection rate is probably fairly under reported.
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Same mate, absolutely loathe the bloke but credit where it is due he has asked the awkward questions that many of us would like an explanation to.
Mentioned in an earlier post that Labour are conspicuous by their absence, so much for an effective opposition.
Just having an opposition would be nice.
Sorry, I didn't mean to say their figures were good. I mean they aren't worse than the UK, France, Italy, Spain etc - in fact their rate is lower (France, UK are at 15%, for example, of confirmed cases). I know it's no solace in terms of deaths, and if they had gone into lockdown then yes I think it's evident they would have probably been better off.
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That is the trap Labour Leaders are in though; say the Government isn’t handling something right (eg: Salisbury) and they get criticised for being traitors no matter how bad the Government is handling something; say things that the media just ignore as they are now (like Rosena Allin-Khan questioning why our quarantine is 7 days whilst the WHO recommends 14) and they “aren’t an effective opposition“ apparently because the media don’t pick them up.
Morgan might be saying things that sound decent but he was banging the Trump drum for years. People aren’t agreeing with him so much as he is agreeing with them, probably out of self-protection reasons.
That’s nonsense.
Labour are not in control of how much media coverage they receive, but even so I’ve seen plenty of commentary from Labour in the past week.
I think its applying how well they have done given the choices they have made mate, comparatively to population, infection rate and mortality they are running three times higher then other countries. Who went down say a lock down or aggressive testing route. If they went down the same route the evidence comparatively would lead us to believe 75% of their mortality rate would likely still be alive. Thats shockingly bad.
There are obvious differences in how France, Italy, Spain and Uk could have dealt with this compared to Sweden. Population, geographical position, poverty, borders, travel hubs, visitors, when the virus hit and really on reflection the UK, France, Italy and Spain will look back on a lot of their handling of this and on reflection and wish they had done it better maybe with different decisions at different times and the competency of those in charge. They are the worst impacted parts of Europe and as you say Sweden is joining them, not a typical examples of how things are being dealt with in Europe as a whole.
Italy were perhaps unlucky, but Spain, France and the UK arguably will be disappointed with how this crisis has played out and their efforts to get on top of it, first wave anyway. Yet a challenge for those countries has been simply the scale, for example somewhere like Iceland is perhaps at an advantage given because they have a small isolated population, France, UK and Italy are at that natural disadvantage of large countries, with a scattered large, fragmented populations. Really difficult to find homeostasis in systems, like health, testing, provision of equipment, cluster identification, contact tracing, etc, etc all these things we know work in attacking and starving the virus of hosts, all the time the virus is exponentially growing and infecting.
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There's quite a lot on there to be honest, chronic lack of PPE due to abysmal planning has been top story for days, and this is the number one after the live feed
Coronavirus: Care home deaths 'far higher' than official figures
A new report suggests deaths in residential care linked to Covid-19 could have doubled over a month.
www.bbc.co.uk
Care home deaths
Wat Tyler
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There’s no article about the Times article, no article about PPE being passed to another country, and of course nothing from the mouthpiece that is Kuennsberg
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It's the top story in the live feed.
Kuensberg yes there's no excuse for, but she's a dreadful journalist who ignores the absolutely basic rule of having two independent sources before reporting a story.
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