Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[JimmyJeffers]

I am concerned that people, and you see them on here, believe that somehow Germany have got this sorted. It was even raised at one of the daily briefings the other week, but fortunately even our idiot journalists have given up on that one. It is dangerous to believe something is good, if in fact it is no better. That’s why we should discount the number of deaths from China and Germany. I can understand why Germany may have done what I suspect, not telling lies, just recording differently, but if so it adds nothing to our potential projections. The only numbers we can use come from Spain, Italy and France unfortunately.....

I’ve not been paying a huge amount of attention to most other countries to be fair. Got a friend in Portugal and Brazil so I hear how things are being done different there. Just trying to stop myself going bananas most the time.

 

[Prevenger17]

Got a friend in Portugal and Brazil so I hear how things are being done different there.

Lol yep. It's hard to imagine a bigger clown than Trump in dealing with this crisis, but there he is

 

[LinekersLegs]

I haven’t seen any relevant data tbh. German overall deaths may naturally be on a decline this year, so a comparison with last year may show nothing....but I’ll stick with one of my original questions, if 130,000+ people have the virus why have only 3000+ died, when France has 130,000+ with the virus and 17,000+ deaths ? ....

I’ve just showed you some - here



So your contention is that a) Germany has the same large number of deaths due to coronavirus as Itlay/Spain/France but b) because of an unspecified drop off in their “normal” deaths, which weirdly hasn’t affected any of the other nations, it doesn’t show up as a spike on their figures?

That is utterly mental reasoning.

As for your last point you are assuming the cases are measuring the same spread within the population at large which may not be true.

 

[peteblue]

Maybe they're just better than you Pete, and you find it hard to accept

Now you’re just being silly, as Souey would say, ‘put your war medals on the table’.........

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Lol yep. It's hard to imagine a bigger clown than Trump in dealing with this crisis, but there he is

My mate said they’d prefer Trump to Bolsonaro.
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Portugal on the other hand, have dealt with this very well. Brazil are gonna end up the worst hit nation of them all.

 

[peteblue]

I’ve just showed you some - here



So your contention is that a) Germany has the same large number of deaths due to coronavirus as Itlay/Spain/France but b) because of an unspecified drop off in their “normal” deaths, which weirdly hasn’t affected any of the other nations, it doesn’t show up as a spike on their figures?

That is utterly mental reasoning.

As for your last point you are assuming the cases are measuring the same spread within the population at large which may not be true.

Then why have Ireland’s numbers decreased also ? ....your graphs not mine.....

 

[Prevenger17]

Then why have Ireland’s numbers decreased also ?

Because we don't have a massive donk in charge

 

[peteblue]

I’ve just showed you some - here



So your contention is that a) Germany has the same large number of deaths due to coronavirus as Itlay/Spain/France but b) because of an unspecified drop off in their “normal” deaths, which weirdly hasn’t affected any of the other nations, it doesn’t show up as a spike on their figures?

That is utterly mental reasoning.

As for your last point you are assuming the cases are measuring the same spread within the population at large which may not be true.

Just answer this simple question. What treatment are Germany giving their 130,000 virus positive people that produces 14,000 less deaths than France........

 

[Goat]

Just answer this simple question. What treatment are Germany giving their 130,000 virus positive people that produces 14,000 less deaths than France........

Tests, they are testing their population.

Which means people KNOW if they have the virus rather than guessing, which means they KNOW to self-isolate.

 

[john jako]

Tests, they are testing their population.

Which means people KNOW if they have the virus rather than guessing, which means they KNOW to self-isolate.

Yep it’s simple and effective.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Then why have Ireland’s numbers decreased also ? ....your graphs not mine.....

I don’t know and I think it a very good question to ask - perhaps they too are identifying cases early? They do have one of the lower rates in Europe.

 

[peteblue]

Tests, they are testing their population.

Which means people KNOW if they have the virus rather than guessing, which means they KNOW to self-isolate.

Which means they KNOW who has it and needs treatment. So after everyone has been tested and we KNOW who is sick, and the numbers are similar to France, does anybody KNOW why 4-5 times more French die? Because I truly would love to KNOW.....

 

[Brisan123]

The truth would get out from the people if it was much worse, as it has done on numerous human rights issues over the years, Beijing and Shanghai have been virtually unaffected.

China were prepared, they know how to contain it and may even have developed agents/vaccines that they can give the public on mass to help combat it, through water supplies or what not where needed, it's not beyond the realms of possibility.

The Chinese built their first Biosafety level 4 lab in Wuhan in 2015, the French and Americans helped them set it up, it is the highest level of biosafety for facilities studying the nastiest diseases on the planet, it was common knowledge they have been working on SARS and Coronaviruses from bats at that lab in the last few years once they'd set this new lab up.

The question is was it an honest f'up and a containment breach, or was it more sinister on their part, that is the question, look how it's wrecking the economies in the west, was there motive here after the way Trump has tried to bully China since he came to office, just plausible arguments as to what may have happened here.

A hell of a lot more believable than some guy ate a bat from a market and now the world is fk'ed, that is the cover story.

Well to be fair, that is exactly what the aliens who teleported me to their ship and anally probed me, told me

 

[Goat]

Which means they KNOW who has it and needs treatment. So after everyone has been tested and we KNOW who is sick, and the numbers are similar to France, does anybody KNOW why 4-5 times more French die? Because I truly would love to KNOW.....

France 333,807 tests
Germany 1,728,357

 

[SerenityNigh]

Excellent. But the contagion seems to be pretty well predictable across Europe and indeed the USA. They have over 130,000 with the virus, similar to France, so, test or no test, why are their 130,000 less likely to die than the French. Identifying it is one issue, but once you have it what is the differing determinant factor in survival. I would really like to know, as would I am sure France, Italy, Spain and the USA.....

I'd guess they're testing more so they can isolate positives before they spread the disease. Weird, but that's how forward thinking people appear to be combatting the disease. I'll just stay put in the middle of the herd myself, I think that's the safest place to be.