Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[peteblue]

Here in the US we still aren’t testing as many as Germany relative to our respective populations though which is a more important metric than raw numbers.

When you test is also important - do you test when the person shows up in the hospital in an ambulance very sick and has already passed it on to vulnerable members of their family or do you do it early, perhaps even prior to symptoms developing?

The bolded bit isn’t accurate either - 100,000 70 year olds are going to have a vastly different death rate than 100,000 25 year olds. The demographics and base health of the infected population matter greatly,

I agree that the Germans seem to be doing something different but it doesn’t seem to be down to classification of deaths because you’d still see a rise in “all cause” deaths which doesn’t appear to be the case.

I agree, if you test everyone really early you maybe able to do something, but even Germany is just scratching the surface of its 83million population.....

 

[Brisan123]

Just had a thought
If you wear a face mask will you be allowed into a bank ,post office or anywhere with cash on the premises

 

[peteblue]

Errr, did you not see Italian emergency wards on tv!

No I didn’t, but I’ve seen our first nightingale hospital with just 19 patients and our Health Sec and CMO saying that we have spare capacity....

 

[peteblue]

Its clear to anyone without an agenda that deaths spike once the heathcare system is overrun as Italy's was so sadly. The statement it doesn't matter how many ventilators you have is absolutely the biggest load of rubbish I've read today, and I read @OnlyBlueWillDo 's conspiracy theories

That’s because you are and remain an idiot. The U.K. has fewer ventilators than Germany, but they are not all being used ...if we run out of ventilator capacity you would have a point, but that hasn’t happened, therefore it is irrelevant......

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Its clear to anyone without an agenda that deaths spike once the heathcare system is overrun as Italy's was so sadly. The statement it doesn't matter how many ventilators you have is absolutely the biggest load of rubbish I've read today, and I read @OnlyBlueWillDo 's conspiracy theories

You couldn't find your ar$e with both hands lad...

 

[JimmyJeffers]

There are wide reports the market doesn't even sell bats to eat,

Link please?

 

[roydo]

There are wide reports the market doesn't even sell bats to eat

Link please?

I cancelled my subs to Bat Weekly, so cant help.

 

[peteblue]

If the German numbers (Deaths) were slightly better than those of its European neighbours you might plausibly put it down to better health/process/care or whatever, but 4-5 times fewer is pure BS. They are recording deaths for other reasons.....

 

[peteblue]

Link please?

'Batman: The Adventures Continue' Chapter Two!

Batman: The Adventures Continue Chapter Two:

www.dccomics.com

 

[JimmyJeffers]

If the German numbers (Deaths) were slightly better than those of its European neighbours you might plausibly put it down to better health/process/care or whatever, but 4-5 times fewer is pure BS. They are recording deaths for other reasons.....

Why are you so bothered about Germany? Honestly Pete, it’s Germany this, Germany that, Merkel did this, Merkel sat on my cat. Come on man! It was over 70 years ago.

 

[peteblue]

Just had a thought
If you wear a face mask will you be allowed into a bank ,post office or anywhere with cash on the premises

You’ll be laughed out of our pub if that helps......

 

[peteblue]

Why are you so bothered about Germany? Honestly Pete, it’s Germany this, Germany that, Merkel did this, Merkel sat on my cat. Come on man! It was over 70 years ago.

I am concerned that people, and you see them on here, believe that somehow Germany have got this sorted. It was even raised at one of the daily briefings the other week, but fortunately even our idiot journalists have given up on that one. It is dangerous to believe something is good, if in fact it is no better. That’s why we should discount the number of deaths from China and Germany. I can understand why Germany may have done what I suspect, not telling lies, just recording differently, but if so it adds nothing to our potential projections. The only numbers we can use come from Spain, Italy and France unfortunately.....

 

[LinekersLegs]

If the German numbers (Deaths) were slightly better than those of its European neighbours you might plausibly put it down to better health/process/care or whatever, but 4-5 times fewer is pure BS. They are recording deaths for other reasons.....

Then why is that increase in overall deaths not showing up in the “deaths from all causes” data then Pete?

 

[Prevenger17]

If the German numbers (Deaths) were slightly better than those of its European neighbours you might plausibly put it down to better health/process/care or whatever, but 4-5 times fewer is pure BS. They are recording deaths for other reasons.....

Maybe they're just better than you Pete, and you find it hard to accept

 

[peteblue]

Then why is that increase in overall deaths not showing up in the “deaths from all causes” data then Pete?

I haven’t seen any relevant data tbh. German overall deaths may naturally be on a decline this year, so a comparison with last year may show nothing....but I’ll stick with one of my original questions, if 130,000+ people have the virus why have only 3000+ died, when France has 130,000+ with the virus and 17,000+ deaths ? ....