Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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On a more positive note, the streets have never been cleaner.

I was walking the dog this morning and I was trying to work out what was different, it was the fact that there was no litter anywhere.
A park area up the road from me.
Opposite Maccies, KFC and Kebab house.
Usually full of discarded crap but now none.
The rats who scurry about in the bushes close to the water are more obvious now, as I guess that's their easy scran gone ?

The massive seagulls seemed to have done one as well, which is nice as they are nails. Proper front you out they do.
 
I've seen it mentioned a fair bit but the context of the death rate in terms of reducing restrictions on society is quite meaningless.

We could have 500 deaths a day for a week and lift the restrictions for example.

It's the infection rate that's the figure that determines this. If you only have 10 new infections a day for a week, that's the sign it's slowing down, not the death rate. I say this as sensitive as I can really put it but anyone in hospital who has the virus and is declining is a statistic in current circumstances. They aren't to me or you but they are to the people tasked with dealing with this.

If they die or make a recovery , it plays no part in the handling of the situation.

Once the infection rate comes down, that's when things can go back to normal. Now I know in current circumstances it's impossible to determine that . We aren't all getting tested and new cases are only being determined by hospital visits. That's why the testing is so important now , to really get a grasp of the widespread of the infection rate.

I know the point you are trying to make, but your infection detection is only as good as the number of tests you do or can do with in your existing infrastructure.

For example total case numbers are live, they are however all wrong, with likely huge rates of more infected that just haven't been tested. So im not sure its very responsible to be considering making a decision by governments based on a flawed stat such as rate of infection, no one has it really. Take the UK as an example how can you know the infection rate or number of cases in the country when the is very little community testing.

Two peices of vital infrastructure in the next phase of managing this, are testing but also speedy contact tracing. For me those two things need to be in place in key areas like the community, businesses, hotels, hospitals, health care workers, schools and nursing homes before restrictions can be lifted.

Another vital statistic that i think needs to be captured, is people who have been waiting for results but have recovered before they got the results. There seems to be a missing link there of people who could or who couldnt have had the virus, that needs to be followed up on for a few reasons, managing resources going on, others they may have infected and an idea around immunity and getting people back to work with some assurance - a virus passport.
 
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I wonder what Trump will have to say about the mass graves being dug in New York State :(
Why do they need to build mass graves for around 7k people who have died over the space of around a month from a population of 8.6m? Makes absolutely no sense and sounds like more shameless media fear mongering.

The place you're referring to is Hart Island which has been used for 150 years as a mass burial ground for people with no next of kin or financially unable to afford a proper burial plot etc. It has the remains of around 1m people and they are buried in plots akin to mass graves.

The mayor of New York himself has also said the morgues still have the capacity for the dead as it stands. This is a snippet from another news article on it "The same report also outlined a response from New York City mayor Bill de Blasio, who confirmed that prisoners were burying people there, but maintained that it was not necessarily related to the state’s deadly COVID-19 emergency. Inmates have been digging graves on Hart Island for years, he said."

Wouldn't be like the media to jump in, twist it and spread fear for people unwilling to investigate. They'd have you believe there's millions in mass graves. Headlines is all that's required these days. Bad news sells better than good unfortunately.
 
On a more positive note, the streets have never been cleaner.

I was walking the dog this morning and I was trying to work out what was different, it was the fact that there was no litter anywhere.
Agree with you on this, walking the dog and noticed how fresh the air is with world pollution almost gone completely. Really noticeable
 
*Warning this is a really upsetting video.

This is just horrific, this is in New York one of the homes of global finance, one of wealthiest city's in the world, in one of the worlds wealthiest countries. This virus doesnt care it just wants to give humanity a pounding. R.I.P. Must be so traumatising for families.


 
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