Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Kenshin said:
That something I have said for a while.

I am sure every death that a patient catches covid-19 during is counted. Not necessarily the cause of death which I think contribute to the greater numbers. So Eddie large last week, chances are he wasn't coming back out of hospital but has since been added to the death count.

I don't mean to sound this in a heartless way but out of the 400 to die in the last 24 hours apparantly, how many were going to die anyway? If not right now then at some point in the future?

Much the same as gravely ill people. Yes the virus may kill them but their body in such a way that anything , including the flu essentially could have the same effect.

It's a difficult thing to really go into because at the end of the day people are dying. Doesn't matter why , someone's loved one is passing and becoming a statistic right now which is hard for anyone to deal with.

When my nan died new year's eve she had to be moved fairly quickly because of the high number of deaths in a short space of time after Christmas and limited space. Probably more people died then in the hospital than has done from covid-19 in a similar time frame. However I am well aware that if my nan had caught the virus then she would be added to the statistics , even if as we know in hindsight , she was never coming out.

I won't go into things I've said before for sake of broken record syndrome. I just don't agree with the presentation of the information to the public in this regard. We aren't being lied to , simply misled. So it is difficult to know how far misled we are or close to the truth. Even if right now that answer doesn't matter to anyone.
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Every single one of them .....................eventually
 
LinekersLegs said:
Some papers on Italy data now coming out, even more stark sex differences for ICU patients (82% men) than seen in China - is it smoking? Weight and diet being reflected in hypertension?


Table 1 shows the demographic and clinical characteristics of the patients. Overall, 82% (1304 of 1591 patients [95% CI, 79.98%-83.82%]) were male, similarly distributed among all age groups. The median age was 63 years (IQR, 56-70) (range, 14-91 years [95% CI, 63-64]) among 1591 patients. A total of 363 patients (23% [95% CI, 21%-25%]) were aged 71 years and older, and 203 (13% [95% CI, 11%-15%]) were younger than 51 years. In this report, median age was used to stratify patients as younger (age ≤63 years) or older (age ≥64 years).

Sixty-eight percent (95% CI, 65%-71%) of patients had at least 1 comorbidity. Hypertension was the most common comorbidity, affecting 509 (49% [95% CI, 46%-52%]) of 1043 patients with available data.
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If hypertension is a factor all married men are goosed lol
 
LouReedwalkonthewildside said:
The problem is though Goat that even with a daily death total there are still vast numbers of people flouting the rules about staying at home, look at the weekend just gone and I dread to think what the long Easter weekend is going too be like, especially if we get the warm weather.

I'm sensible enough mate (and I would deffo think you are as well) too realise how bad this virus is without knowing how many people have died daily.
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Of course mate and if everybody was like us we wouldnt even need death rates to stay in.

But as im sure you know theres a vast number of utter morons in this country,
 
Brisan123 said:
Caused by a heart problem which stops blood going to the lungs an therefore the lungs stop working ...................I think
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Kind of, but doesnt have to be lack of blood to the lungs, or one lung actually. One lung gets blocked/knackered by an infection can cause heart failure. Hence the need for a vent till lung gets unblocked/mended.

Johnson being just on oxygen means his lungs are working, but not quite well enough to have the level of oxygen saturation in his blood. They would have given him a sat level to reach on his own, probably 94 ish. When he gets above that with oxygen support, they will reduce the level, until he can get to 94 on his own.

Then he will feel utterly knackered.
 
Right not making a point with this , just interesting thoughts I think anyhow.

Between 1st Jan and 31st march 2019, 124000 people died in the UK. Between 28th December and 31st march this year , 150000 have died.

Only 1600 were covid-19 deaths , so there was a significant increase in deaths this year anyway.

No idea what the cause of the spike was.
 
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