Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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They will be fine so long as those who have to rent their premises are given a rent holiday. If they are not then there will be carnage......
The rent will still have to be paid though Pete.
If you don’t pay rent for 3 months and the landlord asks for that to be paid back over the next 12 months that’s a 25% increase and a lot of people and businesses can’t afford that.
Landlords will in a lot of cases have mortgages.
 
Which is why the “herd immunity” strategy is not totally discredited.. it just needs to be managed so that it doesn’t overwhelm our resources

Which for me is why I would keep lockdowns until the end of April but from May open back up with restrictions to atleast keep businesses/economy going and folk in a job -

have doormen at most city centre bars/pubs policing the numbers allowed in at any one time.

Restaurants and cinemas etc to have reduced maximum bookings per 2 hours with tables more spaced apart

Barbers/salons to also ensure no consistent number of people sat closely together waiting.

Jobs still home working but those unable too/ self employed allowed back out to work but following adequate social distancing as best able to.

Do that for weeks at a time with short intervals of lockdowns of 3-4 weeks in between could be a happy median going forward until hopefully come August/September a large enough majority have had it.
 
Which for me is why I would keep lockdowns until the end of April but from May open back up with restrictions to atleast keep businesses/economy going and folk in a job -

have doormen at most city centre bars/pubs policing the numbers allowed in at any one time.

Restaurants and cinemas etc to have reduced maximum bookings per 2 hours with tables more spaced apart

Barbers/salons to also ensure no consistent number of people sat closely together waiting.

Jobs still home working but those unable too/ self employed allowed back out to work but following adequate social distancing as best able to.

Do that for weeks at a time with short intervals of lockdowns of 3-4 weeks in between could be a happy median going forward until hopefully come August/September a large enough majority have had it.

The queue for hairdressers will make the bog roll rush seem mild.
 
The rent will still have to be paid though Pete.
If you don’t pay rent for 3 months and the landlord asks for that to be paid back over the next 12 months that’s a 25% increase and a lot of people and businesses can’t afford that.
Landlords will in a lot of cases have mortgages.

Indeed Landlords may have mortgages or bank loans, but when it settles down they will have to find an accommodation with their shop tenants otherwise they have to find new ones who may not be too plentiful. Providing everyone is sensible, government, banks, landlords and tenants, it can be accommodated. It is in no ones interest to pull the plug on anyone in the chain.....
 
Indeed Landlords may have mortgages or bank loans, but when it settles down they will have to find an accommodation with their shop tenants otherwise they have to find new ones who may not be too plentiful. Providing everyone is sensible, government, banks, landlords and tenants, it can be accommodated. It is in no ones interest to pull the plug on anyone in the chain.....

As a home renter (I know you're discussing businesses) I'm still paying full rent so guess my landlords haven't bothered to look at a mortgage freeze as they have me propping them up. If my income stops for any prolonged length of time I'll have to tell them either I need a rent freeze/mortgage freeze scenario or I'm leaving without notice.
 
As a home renter (I know you're discussing businesses) I'm still paying full rent so guess my landlords haven't bothered to look at a mortgage freeze as they have me propping them up. If my income stops for any prolonged length of time I'll have to tell them either I need a rent freeze/mortgage freeze scenario or I'm leaving without notice.

And with the 80% furlough and the instruction to banks etc for mortgage freeze, there is plenty of scope to keep all parties happy. If the government guarantees were not in place everyone would be pulling the plug....as it is there really is no need....
 
And with the 80% furlough and the instruction to banks etc for mortgage freeze, there is plenty of scope to keep all parties happy. If the government guarantees were not in place everyone would be pulling the plug....as it is there really is no need....

Yeh that's why I've not kicked up a fuss yet. I'm still for now at 100% income, possibly go to 80% but can still cover rent. Keeping things as normal as possible.
 
Not sure if posted already, but saw earlier Austria are planning to ease off lockdown measures from April 14th.

Austria seeks to be first EU country to lift lockdown measures after Easter
Non-essential shops will be allowed to reopen under strict hygiene measures starting on April 14.

Austria will enact a gradual easing of its coronavirus lockdown measures next week, which would make it the first EU country to take steps toward normalization, Chancellor Sebastian Kurz announced Monday.

At a government press conference, Kurz said the country could expect some sort of "resurrection after Easter," with non-essential shops allowed to reopen under strict hygiene measures starting on April 14.


Wearing face masks in public — especially in supermarkets — has been made mandatory as of Monday. The measure is expected to be expanded to public transportation next week.


From May 1, all stores, shopping malls and hairdressers will be allowed to reopen — but other services, as well as restaurants and hotels, must stay shuttered until mid-May, with a final decision to be taken in mid-April, he added.

While exams will go ahead, classes in schools will remain suspended until at least mid-May. Events will be banned until at least the end of June.

The government will still extend restrictions on movement until end of April, which means Austrians can only leave their homes to work, shop, help vulnerable people, or exercise.

As of today, Austria has 12,008 confirmed cases, based on 111,296 tests. Health Minister Rudolf Anschober said that the country's doubling rate of confirmed cases fell from 3.6 days in mid-March to 16.5 days last week.


Again, a lot of different factors between there and the UK but our government needs to be looking at how these countries who are ahead on the curve handle coming out of lockdown gradually for whenever the point is reached that we, too, can start to ease out of it.
 
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