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An example of why politics and science in relation to coronavirus are inextricably linked.

You have respected scientists shielding politician nonsense in the US, bombing their own professional credibility. It's happening over here too.


No matter what she has now come out and said, the whole world could see from her face in that video the disdain she had for what Trump was saying.
 
He was right, nothing has been delivered has it....from your own source dated 14 April....”Meanwhile, doctors and nurses in 25 EU countries will receive €1.5bn (£1.3bn) worth of PPE within the next two weeks.

On top of what their own sovereign countries have bought, it’s an added extra, not a primary supply.
 
On top of what their own sovereign countries have bought, it’s an added extra, not a primary supply.

Which they could have bought with their own money anyway. The EU didn’t introduce a new supplier they just inserted themselves as a new purchaser. This was just the EU trying to look relevant. The Eu countries didn’t need the EU to buy them a bit of kit, what some of them needed was massive financial backing and guarantees via coronabonds or whatever, the EU completely flunked this one.....
 
It's quite clear now what's going to happen here with the lockdown: having failed - and been seen to have failed - on every aspect of this crisis, taking tens of thousands of lives the virus should never have taken, this criminal gang are going to extend the lockdown way beyond what happens elsewhere in Europe in order to appear competent and 'in control'. All the while they'll turn the accusations on to a few people in the country who will inevitably ignore the lockdown and break it.

These are the tactics of a cynical bunch of killers.
 
It's quite clear now what's going to happen here with the lockdown: having failed - and been seen to have failed - on every aspect of this crisis, taking tens of thousands of lives the virus should never have taken, this criminal gang are going to extend the lockdown way beyond what happens elsewhere in Europe in order to appear competent and 'in control'. All the while they'll turn the accusations on to a few people in the country who will inevitably ignore the lockdown and break it.

These are the tactics of a cynical bunch of killers.

1. How has it failed?

2. You mean China right?
 
1. How has it failed?

2. You mean China right?
How has this govermnment failed? Is that a real question? The UK is one of 5 countries to suffer over 20,000 Covid19 deaths, and that, as we know, is a gross underestimation of the UK death toll. THAT'S how they failed.

China, yeah. "Look over there everyone".
 
How has this govermnment failed? Is that a real question? The UK is one of 5 countries to suffer over 20,000 Covid19 deaths, and that, as we know, is a gross underestimation of the UK death toll. THAT'S how they failed.

China, yeah. "Look over there everyone".

You said the lock down has failed.

China? Yeah, deffo look over there. It started there. I really cant get why you think otherwise.
 
You said the lock down has failed.

China? Yeah, deffo look over there. It started there. I really cant get why you think otherwise.
The Spanish Flu started in the US; MERS the Middle East. So what, it started in China. If it was started on purpose there'd be a reason to point the finger at them. The only reason its a pandemic is that we trade and move around the globe.
 
The Spanish Flu started in the US; MERS the Middle East. So what, it started in China. If it was started on purpose there'd be a reason to point the finger at them. The only reason its a pandemic is that we trade and move around the globe.

I don't see why we can't just accept both viewpoints. China needs to regulate its hygiene practices much more strongly, and the UK government reacted way too slowly. They're both to blame.
 
It's quite clear now what's going to happen here with the lockdown: having failed - and been seen to have failed - on every aspect of this crisis, taking tens of thousands of lives the virus should never have taken, this criminal gang are going to extend the lockdown way beyond what happens elsewhere in Europe in order to appear competent and 'in control'. All the while they'll turn the accusations on to a few people in the country who will inevitably ignore the lockdown and break it.

These are the tactics of a cynical bunch of killers.

TBF dave almost all of Johnson’s commentariat chums are banging the “back to work” drum, as are his ilk in the US; they are probably preparing the ground for the PM to come out with a load of sub-Churchillian waffle and lift the lockdown too early.
 
I don't see why we can't just accept both viewpoints. China needs to regulate its hygiene practices much more strongly, and the UK government reacted way too slowly. They're both to blame.
Exactly.

We need to bear in mind also that the UK Government in Brexit were/are committed to a degradation of hygiene standards concerning food importation.
 
Exactly.

We need to bear in mind also that the UK Government in Brexit were/are committed to a degradation of hygiene standards concerning food importation.

That polling just shows how important the question is in getting a certain result - the overall finding was that 51% of people approve of what the Government has been doing, even though when you question them further they don’t rate anything of what they’ve been doing well.

 
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