Current Affairs Coronavirus Politics Thread

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Jeepers what going on with the loophole in the grant for business's just heard some of the commons debate from earlier and apparently you can claim a 10k grant if you are renting out an investment property as is seen as a business, Mogg was saying that was reasonable.

Seems a bit mad, given the current context with employment, recession etc.

Do i have the right of that.

I was talking to a neighbour about this because they were looking into it as they have a holiday cottage in Cornwall that they would be normally renting out now so classed as a business.

 

[Blues Harp]

So it was a political decision not to be involved in the EU ventilator scheme and not because "we never received the E mails"
So yet again the pobster is caught out lying.....absolutely disgraceful 1) not to get involved in the scheme and 2)to tell blatant lies about why they didn't
And people still think the "government" are doing a good job, and continue to try and justify actions like these while looking to blame others for their own incompetence.
Shameful

 

[tsubaki]

So it was a political decision not to be involved in the EU ventilator scheme and not because "we never received the E mails"
So yet again the pobster is caught out lying.....absolutely disgraceful 1) not to get involved in the scheme and 2)to tell blatant lies about why they didn't
And people still think the "government" are doing a good job, and continue to try and justify actions like these while looking to blame others for their own incompetence.
Shameful

the thing that does my head in is that they are apparently getting the mandarin concerned to "correct" his earlier remarks:



.... and yet here is Hancock confirming that they got the email and that he said yes to it, which makes the "we didn't get the email" lie even worse.

 

[peteblue]

So it was a political decision not to be involved in the EU ventilator scheme and not because "we never received the E mails"
So yet again the pobster is caught out lying.....absolutely disgraceful 1) not to get involved in the scheme and 2)to tell blatant lies about why they didn't
And people still think the "government" are doing a good job, and continue to try and justify actions like these while looking to blame others for their own incompetence.
Shameful

And yet the EU ‘scheme’ has not as yet bought any equipment at all.....so why would we want to be part of it ?.....

 

[Tea_drinker]

Theres not even enough nurses in the Nightingale hospital in London now let alone enough ppe. This is a shambles.

 

[roydo]

Theres not even enough nurses in the Nightingale hospital in London now let alone enough ppe. This is a shambles.

Are there any patients in it?

 

[Tea_drinker]

Are there any patients in it?

Dozens have been turned away.

 

[ramacca]

And yet the EU ‘scheme’ has not as yet bought any equipment at all.....so why would we want to be part of it ?.....

Really?

EU scheme providing £1.3bn worth of PPE was described as ‘inadequate’ by government
PUBLISHED: 16:35 14 April 2020 | UPDATED: 16:12 20 April 2020

Adrian Zorzut

Health Secretary Matt Hancock speaking during a media briefing in Downing Street, London, on coronavirus (COVID-19). Picture: PA Wire / PA Images
The UK government has described the EU’s bulk-buying scheme for personal protective equipment (PPE) as ‘inadequate’, despite it delivering £1.3 billion of equipment to 25 EU countries.

 

[ramacca]

So it was a political decision not to be involved in the EU ventilator scheme and not because "we never received the E mails"
So yet again the pobster is caught out lying.....absolutely disgraceful 1) not to get involved in the scheme and 2)to tell blatant lies about why they didn't
And people still think the "government" are doing a good job, and continue to try and justify actions like these while looking to blame others for their own incompetence.
Shameful

Also told the lie that the EU procurement scheme hasn't bought any PPE.

EU scheme providing £1.3bn worth of PPE was described as ‘inadequate’ by government
PUBLISHED: 16:35 14 April 2020 | UPDATED: 16:12 20 April 2020

Adrian Zorzut

Health Secretary Matt Hancock speaking during a media briefing in Downing Street, London, on coronavirus (COVID-19). Picture: PA Wire / PA Images
The UK government has described the EU’s bulk-buying scheme for personal protective equipment (PPE) as ‘inadequate’, despite it delivering £1.3 billion of equipment to 25 EU countries.

 

[peteblue]

Really?

EU scheme providing £1.3bn worth of PPE was described as ‘inadequate’ by government
PUBLISHED: 16:35 14 April 2020 | UPDATED: 16:12 20 April 2020

Adrian Zorzut

Health Secretary Matt Hancock speaking during a media briefing in Downing Street, London, on coronavirus (COVID-19). Picture: PA Wire / PA Images
The UK government has described the EU’s bulk-buying scheme for personal protective equipment (PPE) as ‘inadequate’, despite it delivering £1.3 billion of equipment to 25 EU countries.

The U.K. alone has delivered over 1Billion items of ppe within the U.K. so let’s take your £1.3bn and divide by 25, I make that about £52M pounds per country. Now how many bits of ppe, gowns, masks, goggles, face protectors etc etc does that buy, enough for 1 day, 2 days ? It’s a joke, a bad joke and it is ‘inadequate’.....

 

[roydo]

Dozens have been turned away.

Source? Thought the "normal" NHS was back on balance.

edit. Or are you saying that it is full?

 

[ramacca]

The U.K. alone has delivered over 1Billion items of ppe within the U.K. so let’s take your £1.3bn and divide by 25, I make that about £52M pounds per country. Now how many bits of ppe, gowns, masks, goggles, face protectors etc etc does that buy, enough for 1 day, 2 days ? It’s a joke, a bad joke and it is ‘inadequate’.....

And yet the EU ‘scheme’ has not as yet bought any equipment at all.....so why would we want to be part of it ?..... Peteblue.

I sense you're now moving the goalposts. Simple really, Hancock was not telling the truth.

 

[ramacca]

Dozens have been turned away.

Interesting.

"NHS Nightingale is failing to support London's drowning ...
www.lbc.co.uk › radio › presenters › shelagh-fogarty

 

[roydo]

Interesting.

"NHS Nightingale is failing to support London's drowning ...
www.lbc.co.uk › radio › presenters › shelagh-fogarty

Or.

NHS Chief Executive Sir Simon Stevens said: “It is great news that the first patients have been discharged after successful treatment from world-leading NHS staff.
“The Nightingale London may have been built in a matter of days in response to this unprecedented global health emergency but there are excellent facilities and, of course, the staff working there are every bit as skilled and dedicated as those caring for patients at other NHS hospitals.
“We have not yet had to make extensive use of the Nightingale London thanks to the hard work of NHS staff – who have freed up more than 30,000 existing hospital beds – and the public, who have played their part by staying at home and saving lives.

 

[peteblue]

And yet the EU ‘scheme’ has not as yet bought any equipment at all.....so why would we want to be part of it ?..... Peteblue.

I sense your now moving the goalposts. Simple really, Hancock was not telling the truth.

He was right, nothing has been delivered has it....from your own source dated 14 April....”Meanwhile, doctors and nurses in 25 EU countries will receive €1.5bn (£1.3bn) worth of PPE within the next two weeks.”