Degs62
Player Valuation 10"
Brother if you haven't got a hole in your arse what the fook are you crapping out of
Misread your post LOL, just lightening the mood.
CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here
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Misread your post LOL, just lightening the mood.
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Villa sold Young, Downing.. For top dollar didn't they ?
Martin O'Neil must have spunked some big money..
In the space of two seasons they bought £85m worth of players, and O'Neill's net spend was £83m over his tenure.
Safe to say he destroyed Villa.
Darth Toffeeman
Player Valuation: £40m
Just read through most of this. Alot of people share the feeling of fear should Moyes leave and like myself expect the possibility of a decline again. But I will still question WHY have we put up with the lack of investment for over a generation and surely if Moyes calls time that would be the perfect time to oust the board? The fans got rid of Johnston. Liverpool fans agressively got rid of Hicks and Gillette who had no intentions of selling. There are people interested in buying football clubs and I am sure someone out there would turn us around. Instead of looking at the negatives look at the positives. We have huge potential still. Who would have pictured where Man City are at the turn of the century. NSNO -- I want that to ring true again in my lifetime.
"No one is bigger than the club" - This line that keeps getting chucked out on this thread, do you apply the same standards to the owners of the club after 13 years. I mean has Bill becoming the "the greatest living evertonian" elevated him to beyond the same standard that is applied to Moyes.?
Why is no one applying the same rule to the owners who have done nothing for the last 13 years except hope they can cash in whilst enjoying the share value rise of the back of Moyes in the last 11 years.
I can see it now, after Moyes goes the fans will be like " eh lar no one is bigger than this club, is right...anyway Martinez has said that we should build slowly for the future so we might get mid table next year....dam obstructed seats today"
CLAP CLAP CLAP
Why is no one applying the same rule to the owners who have done nothing for the last 13 years except hope they can cash in whilst enjoying the share value rise of the back of Moyes in the last 11 years.
I can see it now, after Moyes goes the fans will be like " eh lar no one is bigger than this club, is right...anyway Martinez has said that we should build slowly for the future so we might get mid table next year....dam obstructed seats today"
CLAP CLAP CLAP
Degs62
Player Valuation 10"
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
What utter ****e that is.
Your entire argument has no basis, as you're incapable of looking at anything Moyes based objectively, due to your hatred of the man, as you see him as 'propping up' Kenwright, when in fact he's just doing his ****ing job. But anyway, your angle of attack this time is way wide of the mark.
Moyes has spent £114M in total of which only £11M is net spend, you could argue that Rooney was a 'gift', as he was home grown, so add his £27M to the net spend & you get a total of £38M - against a total spend of £114M - where's the balance come from? & when you've worked that out, then calculate the value of the current squad & compare it to the value of the one he took over a decade back. Add those 2 figures together & you'll see what value Moyes has generated simply by player trading.
If you can look at that number & say it's 'average' then you're not worth wasting a post on & should be put in the WUM category.
Ihaters
Player Valuation: £35m
No not really. We are fighting for fourth in the richest league on the planet and our record signing doesn't register in the top 200 transfer fees. Show me a team of our quality or more that hasn't got players that cost much more.
15 mil is big for us but in terms of the big players its nothing like spending big money. Even more so when the funds are created through player sales
You should be on tv with that stuff skippy
kenada_blue
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His point is that he's still had 25million etc at points to spend whether through player sales or not, it's still a budget to work off when it appeared.
The "net spend" argument to me is kopiteish in terms of using it to an advantage to either cover up failures of your team, or boost "the punching above your weight" honour.
Fundamentally, Moyes has for the most part bought well, while others around him haven't. But to say Moyes has had zip and is a pauper in the bad world of football solely based on "net spend" is a bit lop sided imo. It's the "We never lose with Phil Neville in the side" type of argument to prove a point.
I look at the whole picture. The problem has always been the sell to buy policy when we've needed the cash to push on and it's not been there.
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Some serious cases of cognitive dissonance in here.
A poster is saying Moyes is "average" in the transfer market yet the squads he has put together, who have accumulated the 5th most points over his time in charge, have underachieved.
He must be a hell of a tactician in that case. Yet we are also informed we always lose to poor teams and never beat rich teams.
I really can't understand how when the facts are SO obviously against the Moyes-outers they can still make the same tired arguments every season.
A poster is saying Moyes is "average" in the transfer market yet the squads he has put together, who have accumulated the 5th most points over his time in charge, have underachieved.
He must be a hell of a tactician in that case. Yet we are also informed we always lose to poor teams and never beat rich teams.
I really can't understand how when the facts are SO obviously against the Moyes-outers they can still make the same tired arguments every season.
Clearly I'm missing something. Are you telling me there is no difference between having Rooney in our squad AND £25m to spend and having Rooney in our squad OR £25m to spend?
Ah Kopiteish, see we've reached the GOT Godwin Law already.
If I give you £1m and take it back instantly and give you friend £1m and don't expect it back are you as rich as your friend?
OK we'll look at just gross spend.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-2003-to-date.html
Yep still down in about 12th place.
Err that is why we have a low net spend. Sell to buy = Low net spend.
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