CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Allezfan]

Cuper has done nothing at about half a dozen clubs since leaving Inter.

Bad choice of clubs, mostly. Keeps trying and failing to turn around clubs in a relegation battle and that's not his game.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Can we please not turn this thread into another 'Moyes should play the youth' or 'Neville in midfield' debate.

I wasn't trying to suggest that. What I am saying is that he hasn't got the resources of the other teams we expect/demand to compete with. Every club has young players they could throw in and hope they play well. But we didn't have a massive signing on fee plus 80k a week to sign Lewis Holtby for example.

 

[davek]

There's essentially two options to replacing Moyes.

There is the Moyes part 2 approach where we pick a promising young manager working in either the lower english leagues or the low quality foreign ones and bring him here on a low wage and basically say "We're giving you a top club, make your name". Howe, Di Canio, Freedman, Poyet, Atkins, Zola etc. And of young english speaking anglophile managers yet to test themselves in a top league Solskjaer is probably the best even if the norwegian league is arguably of a worst standard then the championship.

If we're going that direction, he's the man I'd want.

Personally I'd rather we reinvested Moye's salary into an established european manager of the Emery, Cuper, Rehhagel type. The kind of manager who's done reliable jobs in the other big european leagues in managing the likes of valencia and bremen and udinese and knows what it takes to compete with the big boys for champions league places and cups without spending too much. But maybe that's shortsighted.

Kenwright and co will go for anyone who has form NOT rocking the boat, who is a safe pair of hands in terms of keeping schtum about internal goings on at the club. That'll be the priority. If that person can also manage, that'll be a bonus.

 

[Brennan]

Bad choice of clubs, mostly. Keeps trying and failing to turn around clubs in a relegation battle and that's not his game.

'Suffering bad results in spite of his many signings, Cúper decided to leave the team in February 2006, with the team at the bottom of the division.'

​He sounds BOSS.

If you go to 6 teams and fail miserably at all of them then something's wrong, regardless of their league position.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

'Suffering bad results in spite of his many signings, Cúper decided to leave the team in February 2006, with the team at the bottom of the division.'

​He sounds BOSS.

My thoughts exactly, 7 jobs in 7 years? errrmmmm.

 

[Allezfan]

My thoughts exactly, 7 jobs in 7 years? errrmmmm.

They weren't the right jobs.

Would you judge Pienaar on his time at Spurs or Arteta on his time at Sociedad? Everton would be a good club for him.

 

[kenada_blue]

Yeah but saying every manager will be a gamble doesn't justify hiring a guy whose team has just been relegated from the league he would be managing.

I wouldn't cry if Martinez took over but i also don't see what makes him a better candidate than a whole host of other managers.

He knows the league, has managed in it for years, has worked with limited resources, has full control of the Club, a loyalty with the club and chairman, a brand of football, other managers rate him (fergie does especially) and he conducts himself well. Was a big part in laying foundations of a style at Swansea.

His style of football is progressive but he's not afraid to have the team work and roll its sleeves up.

That's my view on him. I know what I'm getting and it fits with the club.

Everyone else I'd be worried as a unknown quantity.

He turned the RS and Villa down anyway. It's nailed on he wants the everton job.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

They weren't the right jobs.

Would you judge Pienaar on his time at Spurs or Arteta on his time at Sociedad? Everton would be a good club for him.

Not the right jobs? What all 7 of 'em?

Pienaar isn't a manager & is therefore irrelevant.

I would however look at any managers CV & think he was either pissing useless or well over the hill, if he had 7 clubs in his last 7 years on it......

 

[Brennan]

They weren't the right jobs.

Would you judge Pienaar on his time at Spurs or Arteta on his time at Sociedad? Everton would be a good club for him.

Come on ffs.

When Pienaar or Arteta do badly at 6 teams in a row you'll have a point. And if a manager goes to six jobs which aren't for him he's either got a very bad eye for which team he should be managing, or nobody except utter jarg wants him.

 

[D410]

Kenwright and co will go for anyone who has form NOT rocking the boat, who is a safe pair of hands in terms of keeping schtum about internal goings on at the club. That'll be the priority. If that person can also manage, that'll be a bonus.

No doubt about that Dave, they will be told to shut it and don,t rock the boat. I can think of a few lickspittles who will talk up the fans and the club to distract from the real issues.

Nice to see howard come out today and support the manager on behalf of the players and tell everyone the players are happy with the situation despite the web site gossip and the tatt on a future possible manager.

 

[hktoffee]

If Moyes leaves Everton then we will be in big trouble.

Zero budget (even minus). We can't have anyone better than Moyes given how poor Kenwright and Co is.

 

[Brennan]

If Moyes leaves Everton then we will be in big trouble.

Zero budget (even minus). We can't have anyone better than Moyes given how poor Kenwright and Co is.

Think you're right tbh mate.

Although i reckon if we qualify for Europe he'll stick around.

 

[dixie7]

Think you're right tbh mate.

Although i reckon if we qualify for Europe he'll stick around.

europa league would kill us and he knows it, he is holding out for CL.

 

[hktoffee]

Think you're right tbh mate.

Although i reckon if we qualify for Europe he'll stick around.

Yeah mate. I hope Moyes will stick with us.

If he is given a proper budget, he will take us foward.

 

[Jags..class]

Someone I think would be a simliar kind of risk to what Moyes was would be Poyet. Hes been around the game a long while in several countries and is respected in what he has done with an unfashionable club.

Poyet made a tit of himself by speaking out to the public in defence for the rs ratface, got a big mouth.