CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

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Foot Long Hot Dog said:
It's safe because of how he's consistently managed to turn water into wine, in terms of the resources available to him.

He's created a situation where even if the wheels came off & we went down, I reckon he'd still retain the faith of the board.

So, yes he's earned that faith, but it has made him bomb proof as a result.
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If he wasnt giving value for money, he wouldn't be kept around.
 
davek said:
That's nice for him, but how can he possibly face players and demand they sort themselves out contract-wise setting an example like this?
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When does Moyes demand players to sort out contracts? i dont see the problem in seeing where we are at the end of the season before he signs, he might be looking for a new project with a bigger budget. Everton could be helding this guy back from what he could do in football and he wont win with us cos of our lack of ideas and money. Moyes use to believe in the old football dream where he could take us back to the top and i'm not sure he the same guy anymore, no chance as the rs earn 30 million a season in sponsers where we earn 2 million a season, it fighting with your eyes closed.
Even Sunderland could offer him a better budget then us, i'm just hoping he still in love with us cos i dont really want us to take gambles in the summer. Most clubs are sacking managers by the second and we havent been involved cos of Moyes and we will join the manager merry go around when Moyes leaves.
 
Little Ralphy said:
But where would that money come from? The club can't afford it with this wage bill.
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Well we apparently had about £8.5m in jan (instalments) and we're due to get more money from the league soon, so there's a start. Maybe Kenwright could also actually try looking for investment.

Little Ralphy said:
So you think an employee of the club who is on a fixed term contract wants more for the club than people who have purchased shares and do not take a salary, but wish for their investment to mature to a profit? How does that logic work? Moyes is in it for Moyes, most of the time his goals are the clubs goals as well but I'm not sure that is always the case.
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I didn't say he wants "more" for the club, I said I trust him to act in the best interest of the club over the board - this is the same board that cocked up the Kings Dock stadium, tried to drag the club to Kirkby and have denied shareholders a real say by banning AGMs.

Nobody has said that Moyes isn't acting with self interest, anybody would in this situation, just like the board constantly act in self interest.
 
Jags..class said:
When does Moyes demand players to sort out contracts? i dont see the problem in seeing where we are at the end of the season before he signs, he might be looking for a new project with a bigger budget. Everton could be helding this guy back from what he could do in football and he wont win with us cos of our lack of ideas and money. Moyes use to believe in the old football dream where he could take us back to the top and i'm not sure he the same guy anymore, no chance as the rs earn 30 million a season in sponsers where we earn 2 million a season, it fighting with your eyes closed.
Even Sunderland could offer him a better budget then us, i'm just hoping he still in love with us cos i dont really want us to take gambles in the summer. Most clubs are sacking managers by the second and we havent been involved cos of Moyes and we will join the manager merry go around when Moyes leaves.
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Well maybe 'demand' was the wrong word. However, he's got no hand to play in terms of credibility if he says to players that he wants to know what they're doing in the last year of their contract because he wants to plan ahead when he's taking this to the very last day of his contract.

As I said, I have sympathy with Moyes dealing with the clowns in the board room, but he has responsibilities to the players and the supporters not just an ongoing negotiation with the board over his own terms for staying.
 
davek said:
I was impressed how he was offered Villa and turned them down. He's got his head screwed on. I'm sure if he were offered our sqiuad to work with he'd see it as a job worth taking...and a very important stepping stone to OT if he got it right with us.
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There's essentially two options to replacing Moyes.

There is the Moyes part 2 approach where we pick a promising young manager working in either the lower english leagues or the low quality foreign ones and bring him here on a low wage and basically say "We're giving you a top club, make your name". Howe, Di Canio, Freedman, Poyet, Atkins, Zola etc. And of young english speaking anglophile managers yet to test themselves in a top league Solskjaer is probably the best even if the norwegian league is arguably of a worst standard then the championship.

If we're going that direction, he's the man I'd want.

Personally I'd rather we reinvested Moye's salary into an established european manager of the Emery, Cuper, Rehhagel type. The kind of manager who's done reliable jobs in the other big european leagues in managing the likes of valencia and bremen and udinese and knows what it takes to compete with the big boys for champions league places and cups without spending too much. But maybe that's shortsighted.
 
davek said:
Well maybe 'demand' was the wrong word. However, he's got no hand to play in terms of credibility if he says to players that he wants to know what they're doing in the last year of their contract because he wants to plan ahead when he's taking this to the very last day of his contract.

As I said, I have sympathy with Moyes dealing with the clowns in the board room, but he has responsibilities to the players and the supporters not just an ongoing negotiation with the board over his own terms for staying.
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He'll want to know what players are planning to do in the last year so he can look at replacements or not worry about it, him choosing to wait until the Summer doesn't affect his credibility in the slightest, unless you're saying he has lambasted players for doing the same (which i don't think he has).
 
Artetafan said:
There's essentially two options to replacing Moyes.

There is the Moyes part 2 approach where we pick a proisming young manager working in either the lower english leagues or the low quality foriegn ones and bring him here on a low wage and basically say "We're giving you a top club, make your name". Howe, Di Canio, Freedman, Poyet, Atkins, Zola etc. And of young english speaking anglophile managers yet to test themselves in a top league Solskjaer is probably the best even if the norwegian league is arguably of a worst standard then the championship.

If we're going that direction, he's the man I'd want.

Personally I'd rather we reinvested Moye's salary into an established european manager of the Emery, Cuper, Rehhagel type. The kind of manager who's done reliable jobs in the other big european leagues in managing the likes of valencia and bremen and roma and knows what it takes to compete with the big boys for champions league places and cups. But maybe that's shortsighted.
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What is it about Solskjaer that makes him so attractive ? I mean he won the league with Molde, but the quality of that league is probably below the Championship.
 
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