He's going. Might be good, probably bad. I think a 'new start' in general might be good.
Of the rabble that Everton will likely be choosing from, I'd probably go for Martinez. He's managing the smallest, ****test club in the history of the Premier League at a time when their owner's money has dried up. As far as I'm concerned he's doing quite well.
I can't stress enough how much I'd love going to watch an Everton team playing under the guidance of a continental tactician, but I just can't let myself start thinking that my dream appointments are even a remote possibility (Pellegrini, Mazzarri or Emery would represent incredible statements of intent) or else I won't want to renew my season ticket when Kenwright ends up bringing in Dave Jones (I'm convinced he'll be right in the frame).
Now that I've resigned myself to the fact the club won't be put up for sale until Kenwright dies, I'm leaning towards the idea that another long-term appointment is imperative if we're to avoid implosion. Whoever comes in will have to be prepared to accept things like going three years without buying a first team player, which leads me to believe someone like Laudrup isn't a good idea as he'll likely just [Poor language removed], safe in the knowledge that his name alone will guarantee another job quickly enough.
Martinez isn't the Rinus Michels character that some make him out to be, but he does have a positive philosophy and has shown loyalty to a struggling club with an old [Poor language removed] for a chairman. If nothing else I'd say he's well prepared for life at Everton.
I'm sure I'll draw criticism from the Martinez detractors that are prevalent in this thread, but after giving it a lot of thought I don't know what else is realistically out there for Everton at this point. A lower league appointment could work, but unlike Moyes they'd be walking into a dressing filled with accomplished, highly-paid internationals, rather than a gang of crocks who couldn't finish the bleep test, as was the case in 2002.
Is he?
Did the board pick the side for Leeds away this yr, Shrewsbury, Oldham, Bburn, Lisbon away, Liege, Bucresti and the like?
There are times when Moyes has fell short of whats reasonable to expect. There are times when he's exceeded it too. It doesn't make anybody less of a fan to say it IMO.
Is this thread for real? Like a genuine debate? It is it like a Spinal Tap thing? Are we all just playing along with the lunacy?
I think so mate, do you?
its wrong thou mate initobviously he will only leave if he gets a better offer - which he won't - so that leaves us with Moyes
Electricblue, sometimes people have to leave work for specific reasons. All I meant was, that once your thinking of leaving it can affect your work.I am worried that moyes won't have the same enthusiasm if he stays.
I don't understand this post mate. All i said was that i don't think any of the 'likely' replacements would improve us overall. Didn't say Moyes is perfect. The fact is we can't afford or attract a perfect manager.
There are far bigger issues above Moyes that need sorting before we can hope to actually progress.
No mate. I disagreed with you that the board is the only thing holding us back.
DM's woeful record in cups and style of play(in the main) also lessens our commercial appeal, ability to gain new fans, worldwide exposure and the bottom line. Sucess is attractive to all kinds of people and I don't think it's unreasonable to say we should have won more and have been capable of it for quite some time.
His minor failings pale in comparison to our board but they have affected us in certain ways. That was what I was getting at.
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