CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

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Of the rabble that Everton will likely be choosing from, I'd probably go for Martinez. He's managing the smallest, ****test club in the history of the Premier League at a time when their owner's money has dried up. As far as I'm concerned he's doing quite well.

I can't stress enough how much I'd love going to watch an Everton team playing under the guidance of a continental tactician, but I just can't let myself start thinking that my dream appointments are even a remote possibility (Pellegrini, Mazzarri or Emery would represent incredible statements of intent) or else I won't want to renew my season ticket when Kenwright ends up bringing in Dave Jones (I'm convinced he'll be right in the frame).

Now that I've resigned myself to the fact the club won't be put up for sale until Kenwright dies, I'm leaning towards the idea that another long-term appointment is imperative if we're to avoid implosion. Whoever comes in will have to be prepared to accept things like going three years without buying a first team player, which leads me to believe someone like Laudrup isn't a good idea as he'll likely just [Poor language removed], safe in the knowledge that his name alone will guarantee another job quickly enough.

Martinez isn't the Rinus Michels character that some make him out to be, but he does have a positive philosophy and has shown loyalty to a struggling club with an old [Poor language removed] for a chairman. If nothing else I'd say he's well prepared for life at Everton.

I'm sure I'll draw criticism from the Martinez detractors that are prevalent in this thread, but after giving it a lot of thought I don't know what else is realistically out there for Everton at this point. A lower league appointment could work, but unlike Moyes they'd be walking into a dressing filled with accomplished, highly-paid internationals, rather than a gang of crocks who couldn't finish the bleep test, as was the case in 2002.

Nothing wrong with your opinion. You want what,s best for the club even though you know the hand we are dealt is not the fans fault.

Me, I am different, if moyes goes and Bill does what i expect him to do then I will walk away from the club till this regime has gone. I have seen this club aspire to lift european and domestic silverware and there is no f***in way that i want any part of it till this owner is gone...the sooner the better.
 
One thing is clear -- Moyes' VORP* is off the charts.

I think the reason Martinez doesn't appeal to me is that logic for him being good (he's done "so well" at clubs with no money) is the same logic you'd use to justify keeping Moyes.

Spoofery. Playing a more attacking style, winning decisive/big games with clubs far removed from us are the reasons

I realize the scale is different (Wigan have even less going for them than we do) but he is probably going down. So what is the positive there? That an average manager would have been relegated by more points than Martinez? It's a pretty thin argument (although it could well be true it's just hard to make that case). It's the kind of argument those people would likely have a fit about if you used it to defend Moyes.

You answer it yourself - wigan shouldn't be in the Prem particularly now Whelan has stopped the money

People talk about his style of play but his teams never score goals (pretty sure I looked at his record a while back and his teams were close to last in goals scored every single year), he has a 27% win percentage with his current club and he's probably going to get relegated ... and yet people will NSNO all over me for wanting to keep Moyes.

But you're conveniently ignoring we're talking about Wigan in the Prem check what he did on a level playing field re Swansea


That "mystery" has been explained literally thousands of times. Things you disagree with are not mysteries. An 8 out of 10 has shortcomings but if you fire that 8/10 you are far more likely to get something worse than better. There are a handful of 9's and 10's out there and I don't think we are likely to hire one for a variety of reasons (money, competence of BK, simple probability).

I know it's been explained - it's fear!

Don't follow enough leagues to have an educated opinion. Even if we knew 100% he was leaving I'd still hesitate to offer a name. I'd generally prefer an "unknown" though -- they haven't failed yet.

By far the most likely scenario for our next manager is that he is fired after two or three years. I don't think ignoring that fact makes you a better Evertonian.

Crystal ball stuff, although I reckon never will someone be allowed 11 years again for doing what Moyes has done.

* It's one of those stats from American sports which everyone hates: Value over a replacement (average) player.

Answered in bold I can't do the multi quote thing.
 
Nothing wrong with your opinion. You want what,s best for the club even though you know the hand we are dealt is not the fans fault.

Me, I am different, if moyes goes and Bill does what i expect him to do then I will walk away from the club till this regime has gone. I have seen this club aspire to lift european and domestic silverware and there is no f***in way that i want any part of it till this owner is gone...the sooner the better.

Mind numbing
 
wouldnt mind Benitez solely as it would piss the RS off who think he's boss, the guy is a decent manager only criticism that I can place at him not being good here is he is meant to be not close to his players whereas I think our squad has that close feeling.
 
He's not supporting Kenwright, he's wondering why you support an employee at Everton instead of the actual club.

I could,nt give a shiny one about Moyes...it,s about the owner who does,nt deserve to be overseeing the next new manager"in" when he has achieved the square root of **** all in the last 13 years.
 
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I could,nt give a shiny one about Moyes...it,s about the owner who does,nt deserve to be overseeing the next new manager when he has achieved nothing in 13 years.

I share your frustration mate. We should be top of the table, in both Cup finals, and win the Champions League.
 
We could so worse than Steve McClaren as a replacement.

For some reason he's a laughing stock cause he used an umbrella or something but he's an experienced manager who would probably be willing to come here.

Good record in some jobs, poor in others but compared to a lot of managers we could get his list of successes is pretty decent.
 
...........I don't know if he will go, but appointing a successor will be a pivotal decision. Whoever it is will have to maintain the staus quo on a shoe string, otherwise we will start to drop. This isn't scaremongering, it's logic. It would be an incerdible feat if the next man in improves our lot, surely we can't get to the next level without investment.
 
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