Club Statement: Coronavirus

[Mutzo Nutzo]

So let's sort this:

92 games (9/10 per team not including Domestic or European games) to play to finish the season so Wednesday and Saturday for 5 weeks.

Before kickoff, teams must return to training so an extra week.

So 6 weeks for this to be completed however no one knows how long this will start and the longer it does go on, the more and more financial pressure comes down on clubs in the entire English leagues.

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So every week this takes the more money lost by clubs and potentially financially clubs could go bust so the quickest and most productive thing to do is cancel this season.

Now Premier League and The FA are suggesting pay cuts to players for a year and negotiating with the PFA. This money will go towards saving clubs and protecting those who couldn't possibly foresee such a financial impact.

Regarding Premier League with players earning a suggested 30% this would slow down outgoings and keep clubs within their budgeting.

Now what about Sky/BT/International TV deal worth £762m? For me clubs need to do two options;

Option 1)
With a 30% wage saving this will go towards each club individually rebalancing this deal for example:
Everton - £160m a year wages take away 30% would be a saving of £48m or a Sigurdsson.

Now I propose we offset our percentage to Sky with every other club and we start cutting our cloth better.

Option 2)
Go back to Sky and renegotiate an additional season/games with clubs handing over a smaller fee as goodwill. We give Sky a huge opportunity to score a HUGE publicity points by not calling in the debt and a HUGE opportunity to keep future Premier League games on Sky before the new boys on the block: BT, Amazon or the company destroying "Prem-Flix"

Sky would hold a lot of power and be able to hold the keys to the kingdom for another decade or so.

Everyone one wins expect Liverpool

That last point sold it to me.

 

[catcherintherye]

what ever happens now the integrity of this seasons league is gone; but none the less there are vested interested moving heaven and earth to see it continue. We agree on a lot in this thread, but here I think you are over thinking it. Clubs will have the option to "roll" contracts if they can agree with player and if they cant the player doesn't play.

Realistically, you are talking about 10-12 players & some of these are a stretch, in total who would be likely to play first football in the remaining games.......

Willian
Ryan Fraser
Jan Vertonghen
David Silva
Pedro
Adam Lallana
Jeff Hendrick
John Lundstram
Olivier Giroud
Japhet Tanganga
Timothy Fosu-Mensah
Ashley Westwood
ben foster
Robbie Brady
Matthew Longstaff

I don't think it matters who you or I believe will get first team minutes in a court of law. It also doesn't wash to say "well it wont be perfect". I'm not after perfection, I'm after the minimum standard of cover to ensure litigation doesnt follow.

In all honesty mate, I haven't even started thinking it yet. But believe me, clubs legal teams will. If we want to extend the season, that's fair enough, but an adequate response to the question(s) needs to be found.

If it cant be, as I've said throughout the most secure legal solution will be to cancel and void.

That dowsnt automatically mean they do it. There are a lot of idiots working in football. But objectively, it's by far and away the safest, most ethical and legally prudent decision.

 

[number4.]

I don't think it matters who you or I believe will get first team minutes in a court of law. It also doesn't wash to say "well it wont be perfect". I'm not after perfection, I'm after the minimum standard of cover to ensure litigation doesnt follow.

In all honesty mate, I haven't even started thinking it yet. But believe me, clubs legal teams will. If we want to extend the season, that's fair enough, but an adequate response to the question(s) needs to be found.

If it cant be, as I've said throughout the most secure legal solution will be to cancel and void.

That dowsnt automatically mean they do it. There are a lot of idiots working in football. But objectively, it's by far and away the safest, most ethical and legally prudent decision.

We are very much aligned on a lot of this; particularly the parasitic nature of legal teams within Football. My point remains, all options lead to legal complications & for me the Void option is the largest legal minefield, despite probably at this stage being the cleanest & ethically right thing to do.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

So let's sort this:

92 games (9/10 per team not including Domestic or European games) to play to finish the season so Wednesday and Saturday for 5 weeks.

Before kickoff, teams must return to training so an extra week.

So 6 weeks for this to be completed however no one knows how long this will start and the longer it does go on, the more and more financial pressure comes down on clubs in the entire English leagues.

View attachment 82847

So every week this takes the more money lost by clubs and potentially financially clubs could go bust so the quickest and most productive thing to do is cancel this season.

Now Premier League and The FA are suggesting pay cuts to players for a year and negotiating with the PFA. This money will go towards saving clubs and protecting those who couldn't possibly foresee such a financial impact.

Regarding Premier League with players earning a suggested 30% this would slow down outgoings and keep clubs within their budgeting.

Now what about Sky/BT/International TV deal worth £762m? For me clubs need to do two options;

Option 1)
With a 30% wage saving this will go towards each club individually rebalancing this deal for example:
Everton - £160m a year wages take away 30% would be a saving of £48m or a Sigurdsson.

Now I propose we offset our percentage to Sky with every other club and we start cutting our cloth better.

Option 2)
Go back to Sky and renegotiate an additional season/games with clubs handing over a smaller fee as goodwill. We give Sky a huge opportunity to score a HUGE publicity points by not calling in the debt and a HUGE opportunity to keep future Premier League games on Sky before the new boys on the block: BT, Amazon or the company destroying "Prem-Flix"

Sky would hold a lot of power and be able to hold the keys to the kingdom for another decade or so.

Everyone one wins expect Liverpool

Considering how much we have been frittering away, our income doesn't look very healthy!

 

[catcherintherye]

We are very much aligned on a lot of this; particularly the parasitic nature of legal teams within Football. My point remains, all options lead to legal complications & for me the Void option is the largest legal minefield, despite probably at this stage being the cleanest & ethically right thing to do.

Yes I agree and it's been enjoyable debating with you. I just dont believe you've really substantiated the point on null and voiding at all. I mean maybe there are lots of legal challenges I haven't thought of or seen, but everything I've seen suggests to me it's very answerable legally, I for voiding, which it isnt in other scenarios.

I also think in situations like this, the more you tinker, the worse it gets.

 

[Barca Blue]

You still here GS .
Always the victim.
Commence operation ignore option .
Do one you infestation

 

[orly]

You still here GS .
Always the victim.
Commence operation ignore option .
Do one you infestation

?????????????

 

[mightymoyes]

So let's sort this:

92 games (9/10 per team not including Domestic or European games) to play to finish the season so Wednesday and Saturday for 5 weeks.

Before kickoff, teams must return to training so an extra week.

So 6 weeks for this to be completed however no one knows how long this will start and the longer it does go on, the more and more financial pressure comes down on clubs in the entire English leagues.

View attachment 82847

So every week this takes the more money lost by clubs and potentially financially clubs could go bust so the quickest and most productive thing to do is cancel this season.

Now Premier League and The FA are suggesting pay cuts to players for a year and negotiating with the PFA. This money will go towards saving clubs and protecting those who couldn't possibly foresee such a financial impact.

Regarding Premier League with players earning a suggested 30% this would slow down outgoings and keep clubs within their budgeting.

Now what about Sky/BT/International TV deal worth £762m? For me clubs need to do two options;

Option 1)
With a 30% wage saving this will go towards each club individually rebalancing this deal for example:
Everton - £160m a year wages take away 30% would be a saving of £48m or a Sigurdsson.

Now I propose we offset our percentage to Sky with every other club and we start cutting our cloth better.

Option 2)
Go back to Sky and renegotiate an additional season/games with clubs handing over a smaller fee as goodwill. We give Sky a huge opportunity to score a HUGE publicity points by not calling in the debt and a HUGE opportunity to keep future Premier League games on Sky before the new boys on the block: BT, Amazon or the company destroying "Prem-Flix"

Sky would hold a lot of power and be able to hold the keys to the kingdom for another decade or so.

Everyone one wins expect Liverpool

Burnley have near double our commercial income? Find that hard to believe

 

[Jeff Jones]

If there was never football played again and liverpool did not win the league matty would be happy with that. If city were 25 clear he would not be getting worked up.

That's OK. He's an Everton supporter on an Everton forum and his opinion, if that is the way he feels, if fine by me. The opinions of others aren't
important at all on this site.

 

[Jeff Jones]

Might be before the end of May
Austria just announced they will let shops open next week followed by bars and restaurants. Denmark announcing what they will do this week. Sweden had shops bars etc already open same as Australia. So things could change in a month

Bars open in Australia? Not round our way.

 

[Blueclouds]

We talk of sky and bt wanting their money back but what about the other football deals. Most of the world show live premiership matches.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Niasse!

Herpes Simplex Virus comes to mind!

 

[Brisan123]

I found it for you :-
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000006464120.html

That's all in a foreign language lol

 

[firefighterblue]

Bars open in Australia? Not round our way.

That's been done to keep YOU out. All your neighbours can use them!!!!

 

[Brisan123]

Take the games from this season were teams have played each other twice and call that the final standings.

Reckon it would work out a 19 or 20 game season.

We'd lose the Wolves win but also wipe out Sheff Utd and Norwich losses as an example so not sure how we would fare at the end.

so someone who played the scum twice and lost would be treated the same as someone who played norwich twice and won both