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Wow. People actually believed that meme lollollol No wonder we are in the state we are
dead_soft
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ah sorry, didn’t realise you had some reckons you wanted to get off your chest.
What percentage of the protestors only wanna go and have a party considering you know all about it.
Do you have some good evidence of Hyde Park being left in a state that shows they didn’t care about the environment?
Science doesn't claim eggs are good or bad for you, it claims that there are some health benefits to eggs and some health negatives.There is scientific consensus on everything, eggs are good for us, eggs are bad for us, eggs are good for us, eggs are bad for us, eggs are now good for us again I think. Every scientist of every age knew more than those who preceded them, therefore they believed they were correct. 50 years from now another group of scientists will be telling us the complete opposite.......
Back in the 60’s we only had newspapers which no longer exist and TV programmes which no longer exist, but each of us from that generation will tell you that we were told we are entering a new ice age.
In 1975, Newsweek Predicted A New Ice Age. We’re Still Living with the Consequences. - Longreads
All climate change deniers needed was one article to cast doubt on the science of global warming.longreads.com
I think you will find it is the media that constantly reports science out of context which is causing your confusion.
Course he does...
This old photo of rubbish in Hyde Park isn’t from a climate protest – Full Fact
The picture was taken after the event promoting the legalisation of cannabis in April, not the climate protest in September.
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It's really depressing that we get caught up with the culture war stuff.
Pretty much all the science shows that we are destroying our planet. We need action.
Pretty much all the science shows that we are destroying our planet. We need action.
There is scientific consensus on everything, eggs are good for us, eggs are bad for us, eggs are good for us, eggs are bad for us, eggs are now good for us again I think. Every scientist of every age knew more than those who preceded them, therefore they believed they were correct. 50 years from now another group of scientists will be telling us the complete opposite.......
Back in the 60’s we only had newspapers which no longer exist and TV programmes which no longer exist, but each of us from that generation will tell you that we were told we are entering a new ice age.
In 1975, Newsweek Predicted A New Ice Age. We’re Still Living with the Consequences. - Longreads
All climate change deniers needed was one article to cast doubt on the science of global warming.
This post shows a depressing lack of understanding about scientific literature, and the difference between a single study (which is reported as a headline through the media for clicks and hits) and the scientific consensus of a meta analysis of studies.
That laughable list posted earlier, has some claims made by a single person, which were dismissed at the time by most, as if that claim had the same peer reviewed rigour as climate science.
There are multiple claims in that list that ”Oil will run out in year x, but it didnt!”, completely ignoring the point that everyone agrees oil will run out at some point, including all the oil companies - a finite resource will run out if you keep using it - it’s simply a question of when. However as we gather more data, and improve the modelling, the predictions change. In the case of peak oil, the prediction moves forwards, as generally the new data gathered is that a new, large oil field is discovered, or that refining techniques significantly improve, getting a better yield.
There is no scientific topic which has had more scrutiny than climate science, and yet the consensus is still around the 97% mark, and the new data put into the modelling (e.g. global temperature records being broken year after year) makes the predictions more worrying.
peteblue
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Not at all. I totally agree that we should clean up the planet, always have done.....
bol-uk
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But no one is doing and so people are having to protest in difficult places in order to get something to happen.What is the issue?
peteblue
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I did not post it as a scientific rebuttal. My point being that Scientists are not always right and that as each year passes our knowledge should be increasing. Back in the 60’s when Scientists declared we were going into an ice age, those scientists were at the cutting edge, they really knew their stuff and had access to technology that was state of the art. But of course looking back, they didn’t really know and their technology was pitiful compared to that now available to any five year old child. So how can anyone, today, declare with absolute certainty that they are right, when the scientists 60 years from now will have even more technology, more data and will declare with absolute certainty that the previous scientists were wrong but they are right. Do you see my point, things change, we progress, we learn.......
peteblue
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They could start by tidying up our country instead of showing their right on beliefs while contributing to the mess and pollution......
bol-uk
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What do you mean? Like clean the streets? I have no idea what you mean here. They are talking about te end of humanity but you want them to ignore that to get the dust pan out.
Man you are weird
Also, what the ffff are right on beliefs?? DO you honestly think only "right on people" want to save the planet?? If so does that really make them bad people? What are you actually doing to save the planet for your grand kids other than moaning about those that are doing something?
You are a mess of contradiction
You were quoting articles about eggs being good or bad for you, as your example of scientific studies, as if that is in any way Comparable with climate science.
The bit in bold underscores your lack of understanding about science. Science is not about certainty, it’s about probability, and theories which best explain the observable facts.
The irony is that climate scientists are the ones trying hardest to disprove the current modelling and predictions, and are the most willing to proven wrong. Whereas climate science deniers have no interest in evidence or changing their views.
dead_soft
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These are not mutually exclusive things! What do you mean by‘tidy up our country?’
You really seem to not be able to grasp much about this debate at all, if I’m honest, you struggle with how the science works, you struggle with what these protestors are aiming for.
the planet is dying, pete
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