Cancelling this season's Premier League

[Nymzee]

You might get Leicester too. I think you are pushing it really though, especially with Sheffield United. They could probably be bought off with being paid the 9th biggest amount from the TV deal, and knowing they need the next payment as their wages are much higher than their existing revenues.

Why would Sheff Utd void the chance of being in Europe.

 

[catcherintherye]

It's a minefield legally for the premier league and championship.

No option including increasing the size of the premier league for a season is without fairly obvious pitfalls, any solution would be challenged and unsustainable - it may have to be unanimous and turkeys won't vote for Christmas so self interest will rule over common sense, but realistically when it eventually resumes, be it October even, no crowds will be an ever present no matter what for some time to come even next season.

Then there's the issue of tv rights for a hugely devalued product and clubs budgeting for revenue they've now no hope of getting next season.

I agree Chris, and I have gone into quite a bit of detail on the threads with this. The easiest legal position to defend will be that if the season cannot be completed it is invalidated and need to be repeated. That doesn't mean there's no challenge, but it's the easiest to defend. Once you divert from that position, you really do open up pandoras box, as you just increase the number of decisions you have to take and the number of challenges that can be sought (especially as you have to be seen to be consistent).

Suffice to say, if you relegate a side who have a game in hand which is won got them out of trouble, it's fairly black and white and you will be wide open to litigation. Likewise if you use a ppt ratio, without factoring in home and away games, difficulty of opponents played, and difficulty of opponents to come, expect to pay a side out hundreds of millions in damages (never mind enormous legal costs).

 

[Wayno]

Whisperings of the them pushing for a European super league if they don’t get handled the title.

Best idea I’ve ever heard in my life.

 

[catcherintherye]

Why would Sheff Utd void the chance of being in Europe.

Well there may not even be Europe next season. And because, without coming to a resolution, clubs won't receive the next payment of funds, so the immediacy of requiring the next instalment of TV money may mean they sacrifice the money they may get from EL football. Their wage bill is enormous and they need that money.

 

[catcherintherye]

Whisperings of the them pushing for a European super league if they don’t get handled the title.

Best idea I’ve ever heard in my life.

All banter aside is that in any way serious, or is it just spoilt kids having a tantrum in their fanbase.

Them leaving and going to form a super league on their own, would be absolutely amazing. They'd be bankrupt within a year.

 

[boris]

The RS obviously.

Manchester United because they feel they can get a CL place.

And Sheffield United.

I imagine the other 17 would happily bring the curtain down right now.

I think Chris Wilder has already said he thinks it should be voided.

 

[Toast]

Why would Sheff Utd void the chance of being in Europe.

Because is they got into the Europa next season they would get relegated as they couldn't handle it and a league campaign as well.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I still don't think they'll void the league at all. The reds are getting the title, there's no point trying to deny it.

There has to be a cut off point for when the season must be completed. It can't be indefinite. There are far to many legalities. financial implications and unknowns to let this run for months and inevitably have a knock on effect lasting several seasons.

 

[catcherintherye]

I still don't think they'll void the league at all. The reds are getting the title, there's no point trying to deny it.

There has to be a cut off point for when the season must be completed. It can't be indefinite. There are far to many legalities. financial implications and unknowns to let this run for months and inevitably have a knock on effect lasting several seasons.

The issue is going to be, you either void and repeat (and thus solve the enormous financial liability around relegation) or you don't- start awarding titles and have to then resolve the relegation situation.

There's a reason why LFC want the season to be completed. They know it's because they won't be gifted the title.

 

[canuckblue]

The issue is going to be, you either void and repeat (and thus solve the enormous financial liability around relegation) or you don't- start awarding titles and have to then resolve the relegation situation.

There's a reason why LFC want the season to be completed. They know it's because they won't be gifted the title.

Add to that the fact if they are given the title, then all those teams in automatic promotion places in the lower divisions will be braying for their rights to move up. Then you might get the teams in the playoff positions asking where's their chance to move up and it becomes a holy mess.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The issue is going to be, you either void and repeat (and thus solve the enormous financial liability around relegation) or you don't- start awarding titles and have to then resolve the relegation situation.

There's a reason why LFC want the season to be completed. They know it's because they won't be gifted the title.

I think they'll be awarded the title regardless. I cant imagine for one second they won't.

 

[catcherintherye]

Add to that the fact if they are given the title, then all those teams in automatic promotion places in the lower divisions will be braying for their rights to move up. Then you might get the teams in the playoff positions asking where's their chance to move up and it becomes a holy mess.

Yes exactly. The moment they are gifted a title they haven't earned then Leeds, West Brom, Fulham and about a dozen other clubs open legal challenges for their right to be awarded PL status, as you have established the principle that somebody is capable of making judgements based upon an incomplete season. It's a massive headache.

When faced with that dilemma, of one club being gifted a trophy they haven't earned, versus 19 clubs being potentially liable for the litigation costs of such a decision, it's easy to see what conclusion is arrived at.

 

[catcherintherye]

I think they'll be awarded the title regardless. I cant imagine for one second they won't.

Thats fine, and your opinion, but in the post I've explained the complications of this. I don't think they can award a title without deciding relegation, and I don't think most sides will want relegation to be opened up because of the legal difficulties.

Unfortunately for them, they haven't earned the title.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I tell you what, that Karen Carney spouts some foaming gibberish...

People have talked about giving the title to Liverpool too because they were going to win it but they have the right to win it properly. If they were just to be given it, you know full well people would say they were the team who 'did not really win it'.

Well yes, you complete balloon - of course people would say that, because they DIDN'T win it! And what's this 'they have the RIGHT to win it properly'? Who gave them this 'right'? If we're going on what our rights were before this situation happened, I would have 'the right' to head to a crowded gig, then take myself off into a pub afterward where I could get absolutely hammered before getting a taxi home with three mates. But I don't, so I don't.

Shut up you dozy twonk!

"Hey Karen, dishes need washing here"

 

[MikeH72]

I think they'll be awarded the title regardless. I cant imagine for one second they won't.

I hope they do. I hope they’re the only club in the world that gets awarded it.