Match Thread Burnley V Everton preview thread/match day thread

[Ashtonian]

We are far too sentimental with our players. How long did we keep Howard in the team with all the times he cost us? The same is happening with Jagielka. The same is happening with players like Mirallas. How long has he been here now? And his best competition has come from the likes of Kone and Aaron Lennon, a Spurs reject. Even '60,000' Coleman, when has he actually consistently played well?

Someone in our squad will have a good game and everyone gets blinkered into thinking their starting spot is safe. Lack of genuine world class players and lack of squad competition has been our shortfall for 20 years. I share your concerns, and I think on the way to change we are going to experience games like this. Just hopefully we have the right owners and right management now to take us forward.

The issue I would raise straight away is that any real change should have happened this summer and yet again we got a repeat of the Kenwright show with him apparently playing a starring role this time. Whole other discussion that but even taking away from who we bought and where from, did we expect any different? We bought from bottom half or championship teams and have not improved in the slightest! If this was liverpool we would royally take the mickey, except we did it, we signed the best player from a bad team and now all look shocked as to why they ended up here and not to a genuinely competitive club.

Perhaps if this is not a blip but the real everton then we need to gut this first team. At the very least gut the squad and start from there, sign new first team players and relegate the existing ones into the squad instead.

Because for what it's worth I think koeman is the right man for the job. If he can taking a torn apart saints twice to a Europa league position then he is the right man to do it to us. But is it it worrying this team is still struggling?

 

[Sapie88]

I'm in, can you start an inflammatory thread please ?

@Neiziro beat me to it.

 

[irishtony1878]

Indeed. I don't know whether or not it's a confidence thing, but at this juncture he seems incapable of pushing on to the heights so many expected of him.

It's the players mate, not Koeman, they are not good enough.

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

How many times did we have free kicks that went straight to a Burnley player? Really lax at times.

Forget this game, on to the next one and victory (hopefully )

 

[captainvindaloo]

there's no way in hell you can describe burnley today as brave

Refering to the Burnely decision to keep the player with a yellow on, as opposed to RK taking Gana off. Its always a tough call for a boss. Ultimately, I blame the crap ref for that predicament, but I just wish he could have chanced keeping him on, that's all.

 

[Sapie88]

If we lose to West Ham I'm killing myself.

 

[ianefc]

Dissapointed today, first half was really pot outside of first 15. Second half only looked like one team would win and it wasn't Burnley. Was dissapointed with the two subs, I can only assume Gueye was injured and Deulofeu will never make in this league if he can't/won't realise he doesn't have to beat a man every time.

But hands down the most frustrating aspect of today was Jagielka's distribution. It was rubbish.

Next week can't come soon enough.

On the plus side throughly enjoyed meeting @Woolly Blue and @Mikey_Fitzgerald

 

[froggyted]

Atleast with Bobby we were exciting to watch at times. We're just [Poor language removed] and boring now

Ha! Some of you lot make me want to p**** my pants. As soon as a result or two doesn't go our way the knives are out. At the end of last season practically nobody could say a good word about Bobby, and seeing posts such as this i am quite simply incredulous.

 

[froggyted]

It's the players mate, not Koeman, they are not good enough.

Just to clarify, my original post was referencing Barkley, not Koeman.

 

[Blue Cheese]

The overreaction on here. If we had scored any of those 20 or so chances we had after our first goal and won, we'd all be on to the next match. Fine margins and all that. We're not quite good enough, but people need to stop setting themselves on fire. We'll be ok.

But they never, ifs buts and maybes, fact is we lost. No excuses, I'm sure Pep thought football was really unfair last week, just not good enough.

 

[Sapie88]

SACK THE BOARD!!!

 

[ianefc]

But they never, ifs buts and maybes, fact is we lost. No excuses, I'm sure Pep thought football was really unfair last week, just not good enough.

He's basically just said what you were saying last week about if City had beat us. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Smodger]

Phil Jagielka needs dropping for that abysmal performance.

He's supposed to be the captain too.

Woeful.

Best thing is he will Come out with usual crap this week.

 

[Milk]

Rope a dope by Burnley. Did the same to the RS.

Canny tactics by Dyche as we used all our luck last week

 

[Blue Cheese]

He's basically just said what you were saying last week about if City had beat us. Can't have it both ways.

I'm not with you there Ian, what do you mean?

Oh and I didn't see the game, so my view is based only on result, probably take it with a pinch of salt this week.