Burnley Case

[Rita_Poon]

Wait..you are asking me to do my own research and homework?? Whats wrong with you Sir? I wanted the 30 sec TIKTOK version of events

ah, the windymiller position, good to see.

 

[JimEFC_2]

Last thought from me. Theyve said our payment of 35m wont count against our financial balancing act for the next period of their stupid rules.

Therefore, we should argue it is not allowed to count as income for Burnley either in their FFP book balancing.

So they can't spend any of it on players or wages or any football business expenses.

 

[blulouie]

So dull being an Everton fan.

Oh its anything but dull mate

 

[RD2910]

I thought the original report said that it could be inferred there was a sporting advantage but difficult to quantify what it was. In the absence of a codified set of sanctions they applied a formula they decided on(subsequently reduced on appeal) and have now decided on another formula that says our PSR breach was worth between 3.5 - 7 points over one season and we would have been relegated without it!!

The whole thing is a joke.

I believe it said must be inferred, I can't remember the exact term on quantifying it but I think it was accepted that it was virtually impossible. Some lad called Baldwin appears to have strolled in and done it though.

 

[Tipp blue]

Surely there's also a huge factor that hasn't been taken into account. Everton stayed up from Burnley by 4 points? Had they known the club was given a 6 points deducted at the start of the season then it simply cannot be argued that Everton would not have accrued the required number of points to stay up. I.e., Everton may have performed to a higher standard to secure more points to stay up.

It's like a horse that only does enough to win e.g., Sea The Stars.

The ruling seems subjective without any substantive objective reasoning. It's based on guesswork.

We have to pay 40 million based on an alternate reality.

 

[KevMirallas]

It’s a disgraceful, shameful position English football has allowed itself into and it’s typically galling that it’s Everton as the guinea pigs. It’s as true now as it has been all along, that Everton is the perfect club for them to toy with - big enough to make waves, but not big enough to bring the whole thing crashing down.

Burnley’s behaviour here is embarrassing, but why not try your luck in this kangaroo court?

Everyone should be suing everyone now. The league, the refs, each other, everyone. Everything is fair game. Forget the sport, that’s been destroyed by these people in their corner offices already. Let’s take this to the real battlefield.

But of course that can’t happen, because the rules are different for others. On this same day City are bidding 120 million for a pretty good midfielder from Forest. Chelsea are shining the trophies they won with players bought via bungs to agents. And those are just the cases we know about.

Football is dead, it has been for years. We try to ignore that fact because of what our lives would look like without this constant and sometimes pleasant distraction, but then something like this (or the current disgrace of a World Cup) comes along and brings it into focus again. These people have broken it all, and now we have nothing left.

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Can’t comment on the merits of the actual ruling as I have not, and cannot be bothered to, read and get my head around the ‘detailed statistical models’ and how they relate to the verdict.

It does however feel like there is a system of ‘two-tier policing’ by the Premier League. Chelsea’s transgressions seem to be dealt with wearing 20 oz gloves, Everton’s with bare knuckles. A verdict on the City case is yet to materialise, over 17 months after the hearing ended.

The playing field is already unlevel due to vast disparities in spending power, the least the authorities could do is police clubs fairly, yet even that is too much trouble for them.

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[blackie_jones75]

Anyone got a short plain English vetsion of what that Steffan Borson said in summary and thoughts

 

[Wat Tyler]

Always on the right side of history

 

[Walken]

The financial side of footy really isn't my bag, but I'll just echo my previous sentiments of the points deduction. I wouldn't have issue with us being guilty and punished if I felt proportionate punishments would materialise when the big six clubs such as city and chelsea break those rules. We all know they won't.

 

[BlueInNZ]

No its because they are six toe'd inbreds that spend more time auditioning for Hobbit movies and voting Tory.

Football is a sideshow up there.

Let's leave The Hobbit out of this, thank you.

 

[Librarian]

Can’t comment on the merits of the actual ruling as I have not, and cannot be bothered to, read and get my head around the ‘detailed statistical models’ and how they relate to the verdict.

It does however feel like there is a system of ‘two-tier policing’ by the Premier League. Chelsea’s transgressions seem to be dealt with wearing 20 oz gloves, Everton’s with bare knuckles. A verdict on the City case is yet to materialise, over 17 months after the hearing ended.

The playing field is already unlevel due to vast disparities in spending power, the least the authorities could do is police clubs fairly, yet even that is too much trouble for them.

Because Chelsea would have been financially compliant even if they had declared the money

 

[Jebus_lives]

We got done for breaking the rules twice. TWICE.

By different processes.

 

[Papa Shango]

Am I the only one who doesn't really give a toss any more?

I don't get the rules any more. Actually I don't really get the sport any more either.

What's the point of it?