Burnley Case

[Bluewater]

"The Appeal Board added that the IC (......): "did not in terms say that the inference was irrebuttable; but, in any event, there was no evidence to rebut the inference." In short, even Everton did not make this argument when it had the opportunity. As such, the idea of sporting advantage looks well entrenched in this case".

The 'well entrenched in this case', can easily become unentrenched as it was Moshiri that didn't challenge this, 'sporting advantage'. Our new owners will wipe the floor in a court of law with that argument. Any Premier League football issue will invariably end up in the courts, and more likely US courts, seeing that most of the owners are American, which also runs FIFA and therefore world football. The start of this was the shambles at lfc, which ended at a Texan court, even though the UK courts gave a ruling on ownership/selling the club, which was initiated to stop them going into administration.

Any wrong decision by the ref., VAR officials can automatically give other teams a sporting advantage, and could end up in court. A 'sporting advantage' is also gained by tapping up youth players from other teams or hacking the computers of other clubs (lfc both) and selling players for millions that is then invested in other players.

How far our owners are prepared to take this issue on, may very well determine how long the Premier League lasts in it's present format. Or maybe they'll be offered a behind the scenes deal.

This decision has opened a can of worms.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It's not a great advert for them is it!

I watched Michael Jacksons documentary on Netflix this week we should use his lawyer!

told us to beat it.

 

[matty1878]

Pay it back at 10M a year.

klarna? credit card?

 

[rigg]

Day after day, day after day,
We stuck, nor breath nor motion;
As idle as a painted ship
Upon a painted ocean.

Water, water, every where,
And all the boards did shrink;
Water, water, every where,
Nor any drop to drink.

 

[Jimishorts]

Have YOU been affected by a loss of earnings that wasn't your fault?

 

[COYBL25]

Can we not just send a wagon load of Joeys crop up there as payment ?

 

[AndyP94]

They were simply relegated because they were worse that season. How can you prove we gained additional points through overspending?

 

[TexanToffee]

Was so happy to be fully focused on the world cup and not having to be worried about Everton for a month...

Hope Burnley drop down again.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

In addition to all the criticism already aimed at this decision, how on earth can it be deemed legally fair and OK for the same tribunal (as in the same three individuals) who found we were in breach of PSR and sentenced us (later reduced on appeal) to be the ones who make the decision in this case, too.

It cannot be anything other than being punished twice (or multiple times if every club who lost out to us in the PSR breach years) for the same offence by the same body; nor could it ever be said to be independent given that they'd already ruled on the case in another format.

It's is absolutely scandalous and directly goes against two of the basic principles of justice namely fairness and equality.

The more I think about it we should not appeal at all and just go straight to CAS and let them decide if is fair and just to let the same "independent panel" who imposed an unprecedented 10 point deduction then also decide if the case is worthy of compensation and the level of money awarded also.

 

[matty1878]

honestly lads, your reaction about the
club being “crap a joke circus etc etc

“we can’t spend as much

we will take it and won’t do a thing etc”

it’s BS

we have new f owners who won’t stand for this for a number of reasons

and appeal will be won

we aren’t run by incompetent people anymore ffs sort your heads out

 

[Marius57]

They were simply relegated because they were worse that season. How can you prove we gained additional points through overspending?

It’s effectively saying that a £19.5m overspend is a 4 point sporting advantage as anything less wouldn’t have impacted Burnley being relegated.

So £5m per point. I guarantee that the team that won the league that season had a squad that cost significantly more than £5m per point.

 

[DJH4]

Can't we just give them Barry and call it quits

Hell no, they’dsue us again and with some justification this time!

 

[RD2910]

"the purpose of a deduction of points is to redress the imbalance caused by a sporting advantage obtained by a contravention of the Rules. That sporting advantage should be addressed in the same season, insofar as that is possible. In the Everton FY22 Proceedings, that was not possible – for which we attribute no fault to Everton, the PL, or to the FY22 Commission."

But it wasn't possible, it still isn't possible now, so how can it be a consideration in a court case?

 

[Seathestars]

So basically you can just spend as you wish and say get to for instance, 60 points.
Then near the end of the season or financial year you just say we are for example 70million short for PSR, so lets sell 70 million worth of players.

To make absolutely certainly no one has broken PSR you would have to check every clubs finances at the end of every single day?

Or have I misunderstood it

 

[Old Blue 2]

Was so happy to be fully focused on the world cup and not having to be worried about Everton for a month...

Hope Burnley drop down again.

I hope those greedy SOBs disappear without trace...