Burnley Case

Is anyone with an understanding of football finances able to explain how the payment might be structured?

If we appeal does that put a hold on it?

Are we likely to be allowed to pay in installments so that it doesn't affect our budget as significantly in one season?

In other news I hear that the FA are preparing to sue us because England didn't win Euro 96.
 
Seathestars said:
So the rules are a farce then, and you could be way over in December but cook your books so you are fine at the end of the financila year?
I don't think I have misunderstood it.

The Everton statement seems to say the same

"This ruling sets a dangerous and unworkable precedent for English football, given it is constructed on a principle that a club can be in breach of financial rules at any point in a financial year.
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That's a rubbish argument from Everton, You can sell players to make up for PSR if you come to the conclusion that you will be over, That's not breaking the rules that's not even bending the rules that's the best way to stay within the rules.
 
PhilRegan said:
It is peculiar, what was the incident that caused the fallout with the club and Premier league. Reckon it was its inception in 92 ? We weren't exactly delighted and onboard with ut all.
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….i wonder if it was more to do with Moshiri (and more importantly Usmanov) leaving Arsenal. Masters close with Arsenal hierarchy.
 
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efcforever said:
Is anyone with an understanding of football finances able to explain how the payment might be structured?

If we appeal does that put a hold on it?

Are we likely to be allowed to pay in installments so that it doesn't affect our budget as significantly in one season?

In other news I hear that the FA are preparing to sue us because England didn't win Euro 96.
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We give them Michael Keane back.
 
Tipp blue said:
That's a rubbish argument from Everton, You can sell players to make up for PSR if you come to the conclusion that you will be over, That's not breaking the rules that's not even bending the rules that's the best way to stay within the rules.
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It is bending the rules though, you have gotten a sporting advantage by doing that.

Anyway we both want the best, I just think the rules are a farce and so many holes can be picked in them
 
Tipp blue said:
That's a rubbish argument from Everton, You can sell players to make up for PSR if you come to the conclusion that you will be over, That's not breaking the rules that's not even bending the rules that's the best way to stay within the rules.
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It's not given that any breach amounts to a sporting advantage according to this ruling, so any time anyone is 'at breach' , it's conferring a sporting advantage - despite time to remedy it.
 
Lanolin said:
Well I would imagine that Burnley's argument was that if we hadn't broken the rules we would have gained less points and so they wouldn't have gone down, and so they've brought the claim against us on that basis, using the commission's findings to support it. They wouldn't be claiming that the PL should have punished us earlier, just that we broke the rules and gained a sporting advantage and the commission itself had agreed that remedying that advantage should ideally happen in the year of the breach in order to be fair to the other teams in the league.

I'm not agreeing with the decision, I think the punishment was too harsh in the first place and the inconsistency in decision making is disgusting but the fact is lots of the things people say about it simply aren't true. Loads of people say that it was just the stadium costs being calculated incorrectly and that the commission said we gained no sporting advantage but those are both completely false. We told the commission that we'd budgeted to finish 6th and had actually finished 16th so we had less money than we thought. It was 7 years since we'd finished as high as 6th and we'd swapped Demarai Gray and Andros Townsend for James Rodriguez from a side that had finished 10th the season before. Budgeting to finish 6th was absolutely appalling financial mismanagement and entirely of our own making.
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It's probably best to wait for the report I guess, but to me the 'insofar as it is possible' part completely negates the rest of the sentence. It wasn't possible, it can't apply. I thought the rest of your first paragraph would be exactly what Burnley were arguing. It seems completely absurd in any case.
 
efcforever said:
Is anyone with an understanding of football finances able to explain how the payment might be structured?

If we appeal does that put a hold on it?

Are we likely to be allowed to pay in installments so that it doesn't affect our budget as significantly in one season?

In other news I hear that the FA are preparing to sue us because England didn't win Euro 96.
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yes when you appeal you dont have to pay anything until after the appeal is dealt with
 
Seathestars said:
It is bending the rules though, you have gotten a sporting advantage by doing that.

Anyway we both want the best, I just think the rules are a farce and so many holes can be picked in them
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Interestingly, I wonder if Burnley breached at any point? Because if they did, despite remedying it with sales, they will have given themselves a sporting advantage.
 

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