Current Affairs Belarus…and migrants…..

[coollino]

So then why are we seeing little, if any, criticism of Poland?

I thought you asked about France?

 

[Blue 1]

I didnt take any Es for the reasons youve given.

Again though, taking a 'risk' is one thing.

Fleeing your country (supposedly) as an asylum seeker in fear of their lives shouldnt mean they suddenly want to travel further than they need to...

...let alone jump in a makeshift 'boat' and try to cross the channel.

Using your example...drug dealers where you live wanf fo kill you. Do you:

A: Move to somewhere far away where youre safe

B: Go to somewhere even further then take a bunch of random drugs youve never heard of and have no idea whats inside -- despite believing its extremely risky and you could die. Because while youre on your 'trip' (see what i did there) if you survive...youre now even further away.

What kind of nincompoop chooses B.

There are plenty of people who won't get a covid vaccine but will happily snort 5 x stamped on beak off a pub toilet cistern. That's a bit like option B, isn't it?

 

[Zatara]

I’d agree that option A is safer than option B. But my point is more about human psychology and the fact that some people think risks are worth taking.

When these people pay six grand or whatever, they don’t think they’re paying six grand to die a miserable death in the English Channel. They think that they are paying six grand to safely reach the shores of the UK.

Am I correct in stating that most people crossing the channel don’t drown, and that the vast majority of those making the perilous journey arrive in England safe and well? If that’s the case, then that’s WHY people do it! It’s because they believe that they will reach England safely.

Nobody would pay six grand thinking that it will lead to their death. They clearly don’t think it will happen to them.

Tbh i have no idea on the numbers of people who fail the crossings, whether that leads to death, injury or just choosing to be in one of those camps over in France...rather than simply applying for asylum there.

It just makes no sense at all to me...

Im fearing for my life so i leave the country and get to Europe. Whether thats France or Spain (as an example) im at a loss why i would then want to go to Germany or UK or elsewhere in Europe.

But lets say i do trek to Northern France or pay a smuggler to take me to UK...hold on!

Why am i paying a smuggler? Im already in France where i can claim asylum and be safe.

I have seen the accusations that Belarus has been flying them in. Personally, I'm inclined to suspect they're true. However, would we still consider Belarus at fault even if those specific accusations are false?

I suspect we would.

Arent they now sending them back?

There are plenty of people who won't get a covid vaccine but will happily snort 5 x stamped on beak off a pub toilet cistern. That's a bit like option B, isn't it?

If theyre choosing to not take a vaccine then its the opposite of 'fearing for their life'.

It just makes them extremely peculiar...as are those who snort unknown powder away from the slopes.

 

[coollino]

Tbh i have no idea on the numbers of people who fail the crossings, whether that leads to death, injury or just choosing to be in one of those camps over in France...rather than simply applying for asylum there.

It just makes no sense at all to me...

Im fearing for my life so i leave the country and get to Europe. Whether thats France or Spain (as an example) im at a loss why i would then want to go to Germany or UK or elsewhere in Europe.

But lets say i do trek to Northern France or pay a smuggler to take me to UK...hold on!

Why am i paying a smuggler? Im already in France where i can claim asylum and be safe.




Arent they now sending them back?



If theyre choosing to not take a vaccine then its the opposite of 'fearing for their life'.

It just makes them extremely peculiar...as are those who snort unknown powder away from the slopes.

It's because it hasn't happened to you, not even close, you weird little cretin

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I didnt take any Es

lol

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Tbh i have no idea

Finally getting somewhere here

 

[Kurt.]

Tbh i have no idea on the numbers of people who fail the crossings, whether that leads to death, injury or just choosing to be in one of those camps over in France...rather than simply applying for asylum there.

It just makes no sense at all to me...

Im fearing for my life so i leave the country and get to Europe. Whether thats France or Spain (as an example) im at a loss why i would then want to go to Germany or UK or elsewhere in Europe.

But lets say i do trek to Northern France or pay a smuggler to take me to UK...hold on!

Why am i paying a smuggler? Im already in France where i can claim asylum and be safe.




Arent they now sending them back?



If theyre choosing to not take a vaccine then its the opposite of 'fearing for their life'.

It just makes them extremely peculiar...as are those who snort unknown powder away from the slopes.

I’d love it if a stranger punched you in the chest on a zebra crossing

 

[cronullasharks]

Zat trying to act vague to mask what he'd really like to say

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Zat trying to act vague to mask what he'd really like to say

Not a single post even remotely showing any kind of sympathy for the dead tells you everything you need to know about this character.

 

[Tree13]

I thought you asked about France?

I'm asking about the wider comparison between the two situations.

 

[Blue 1]

Tbh i have no idea on the numbers of people who fail the crossings, whether that leads to death, injury or just choosing to be in one of those camps over in France...rather than simply applying for asylum there.

It just makes no sense at all to me...

Im fearing for my life so i leave the country and get to Europe. Whether thats France or Spain (as an example) im at a loss why i would then want to go to Germany or UK or elsewhere in Europe.

But lets say i do trek to Northern France or pay a smuggler to take me to UK...hold on!

Why am i paying a smuggler? Im already in France where i can claim asylum and be safe.




Arent they now sending them back?



If theyre choosing to not take a vaccine then its the opposite of 'fearing for their life'.

It just makes them extremely peculiar...as are those who snort unknown powder away from the slopes.

Don't they avoid the vaccine because they think it'll kill them or mess them up in some other way?

 

[spectateur]

Do you know she's financially well off because of some other reporting or do you have an extremely low bar for what constitutes being well off?

I wrote "she looks to be". Not "she is".
I have met migrants from the middle East and from her appearance in the image she would appear to be one who is not financially deprived.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Channel deaths: the UK has clear legal responsibilities towards people crossing in small boats

Talk of sending people back distracts from the UK’s clear responsibilities towards anyone who attempts the crossing.

theconversation.com

 

[BlueToff]

Migrant crossings: UK must make itself 'less economically attractive' to those making journey, French interior minister says

Gerald Darmanin says France will not be "held hostage" by Britain's domestic politics, but adds that a meeting on Sunday, to which Home Secretary Priti Patel was disinvited, was not "anti-English".

news.sky.com

I mean, Jesus Christ

 

[BlueToff]

"Britain must take its responsibility and limit its economic attractiveness.

"Britain left Europe, but not the world. We need to work seriously on these questions, without being held hostage by domestic British politics."

Imagine if that happened - imagine how many people would lose their heads here and say it was evil. That's what Darmanin said.